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Old 08-22-2010, 08:20 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre

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Bold #1: The gospel has never been nor will be, broken. But its stewards are. You wanna hear the documented statistics? It's NOT a pretty picture. Bottom line? WE'RE LOSING!!!

Bold #2: Motivation is great. Every church is motivated. But motivated enough to actually abandon our WAY outdated tactics that haven't worked since the 1950's? Nope. Not very many. NewSpring is, though. They've baptized thousands and thousands in the last ten years.
How many are still there. If they're not making disciples, I'm not impressed. Like someone said recently ( I think it was John MacArthur). One of the churches in california claimed to have something like 20,000 new converts over the last 2 or 3 years, yet there church attendence only grew by 120.
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