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Old 09-08-2010, 12:17 AM
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Re: Burning the Koran

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Again, the church bills itself as an Independent Charismatic church. You do know even Roman Catholics say they are Apostolic, right?

Here's what I found in searching their Web Site...

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5 More Reasons to Burn the Koran
... to handle the revival we will see this century with the apostolic anointing, and bring Godly changes to our entire society.” ...
Blog entry - Dave Ingram - 09/07/2010 - 4:29pm - 4 comments

About Us
... are: • Apostolic leadership with emphasis on the apostolic anointing, the five- fold ministry role of training and equipping the ...
Page - Dave Ingram - 11/11/2009 - 6:58pm - 0 comments

Nehemiah Part 8: Church has been reduced to Sunday morning, and we think that is serving God!
... is why, as a whole, people do not like what we call the Apostolic, because the Apostolic puts a demand on you. The Apostolic says I do not want to hear ...
Blog entry - Dr. Terry Jones - 03/25/2010 - 10:48am - 0 comments

The Bible and our Moral Future: Nehemiah Part 45
... I used to think about, the ruling and reigning church, the Apostolic church, the five-fold ministry, and all these things that are far ...
Blog entry - Dr. Terry Jones - 06/08/2010 - 10:51am - 0 comments

Jihad against Christians - why does America not react?
... local houses, businesses and churches, including a Christ Apostolic Church and two Evangelical Churches of West Africa. Coptic ...
Blog entry - Fran Ingram - 03/25/2010 - 12:35pm - 0 comments

The Church's Mission - The Braveheart Show: Episode 8
... episode, Dr. Jones talks about the Five Fold Ministry, the Apostolic and Prophetic callings, and the mission and vision of the church. ...
YouTube - Dave Ingram - 12/24/2009 - 9:24pm - 0 comments

Welcome to Dove World Outreach Center
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Islam is of the Devil
... the belief of the church is? We are a New Testament, Charismatic, Non-Denominational Church that believes in the whole Bible and ...
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Baby Kissers, Enemies, and a Time for War
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Old 09-08-2010, 12:37 AM
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Re: Burning the Koran

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Sure! There are MANY who say they are Apostolic. But I must confess what I read them saying did not make me think of the Catholic church! If I was guessing, and I am, I'd say they are more like some on the present day Apostolics than they are the Catholics. I'm not trying to prove anything Praxeas, just found it interesting how much they spoke of Apostolic, anointing, worship, etc.

"..... strong and stable five-fold ministers under the apostolic anointing. We believe that God is calling a new generation in this end time – a generation of believers that are yielded to His Word and His will."

Again, I wasn't trying to make any point or any certain insinuation. Just found it interesting.

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Eh..no. Again Roman catholics was just an example. There are Charismatics....not Pentecostals....that call themselves "Apostolic", not because they believe in Oneness or baptism in Jesus name
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Old 09-08-2010, 12:39 AM
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Re: Burning the Koran

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Here's what I found in searching their Web Site...

Apostolic References:

Search results

SEVEN REFERENCES TO APOSTOLIC:

5 More Reasons to Burn the Koran
... to handle the revival we will see this century with the apostolic anointing, and bring Godly changes to our entire society.” ...
Blog entry - Dave Ingram - 09/07/2010 - 4:29pm - 4 comments

About Us
... are: • Apostolic leadership with emphasis on the apostolic anointing, the five- fold ministry role of training and equipping the ...
Page - Dave Ingram - 11/11/2009 - 6:58pm - 0 comments

Nehemiah Part 8: Church has been reduced to Sunday morning, and we think that is serving God!
... is why, as a whole, people do not like what we call the Apostolic, because the Apostolic puts a demand on you. The Apostolic says I do not want to hear ...
Blog entry - Dr. Terry Jones - 03/25/2010 - 10:48am - 0 comments

The Bible and our Moral Future: Nehemiah Part 45
... I used to think about, the ruling and reigning church, the Apostolic church, the five-fold ministry, and all these things that are far ...
Blog entry - Dr. Terry Jones - 06/08/2010 - 10:51am - 0 comments

Jihad against Christians - why does America not react?
... local houses, businesses and churches, including a Christ Apostolic Church and two Evangelical Churches of West Africa. Coptic ...
Blog entry - Fran Ingram - 03/25/2010 - 12:35pm - 0 comments

The Church's Mission - The Braveheart Show: Episode 8
... episode, Dr. Jones talks about the Five Fold Ministry, the Apostolic and Prophetic callings, and the mission and vision of the church. ...
YouTube - Dave Ingram - 12/24/2009 - 9:24pm - 0 comments

Welcome to Dove World Outreach Center
... to handle the revival we will see this century with the apostolic anointing, and bring Godly changes to our entire society. God has ...
Page - Dave Ingram - 10/19/2009 - 8:06am - 0 comments


ONLY TWO REFERENCES TO CHARISMATIC:

Search results
Islam is of the Devil
... the belief of the church is? We are a New Testament, Charismatic, Non-Denominational Church that believes in the whole Bible and ...
Page - Dave Ingram - 11/24/2009 - 6:55pm - 0 comments

Baby Kissers, Enemies, and a Time for War
... trust the baby kissers, those smiling politicians who are charismatic and can talk and tell you what you want to hear. They are all ...
Blog entry - Dr. Terry Jones - 01/14/2010 - 5:44pm - 0 comments
See any reference to why Apostolic Pentecostals call themselves Apostolic? Like baptism in Jesus name? Acts 2:38? Oneness? Tongues?
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  2. The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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Old 09-08-2010, 07:51 AM
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Saw the pastor of this church on Anderson Cooper last night. He had a pretty sweet mustache. He didn't seem that prepared for the interview, but he was probably nervous about being on TV so it was understandable.

As for the Koran burning, let them do it. I do not think it is the best idea, but they have a legal right to do it.

I mean, the best way to fight extremism is to be extreme, right? lol
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Old 09-08-2010, 08:11 AM
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I would go out and buy a tv if they would televise this event on pay per view. TIC
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Old 09-08-2010, 01:47 PM
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Re: Burning the Koran

Charisma online editorial


Wednesday, 08 September 2010 08:08 AM EDT
J. Lee Grady Newsletters - Fire In My Bones

Just Say No to Anti-Muslim Bigotry

Terry Jones, the Florida pastor who plans to burn copies of the Quran on 9/11, does not speak for charismatic Christians.


Most of us reacted with a collective groan when we learned that the pastor of a small charismatic church in Gainesville, Fla., said he plans to burn copies of the Quran on Sept. 11. I was especially disappointed because I lived in Gainesville in my 20s. This man's irresponsible plot has put a bustling college town in the crosshairs of a possible terrorist attack—and has made evangelical Christians look like intolerant goons.


I'd like to go on the record to say this: Rev. Terry Jones does not speak for charismatic Christians, and his brand of fire-breathing judgmentalism doesn't even remotely resemble the message of Jesus Christ. I am praying that he will repent and renounce his outrageous intentions before the time arrives to strike the first match.

While moderate Muslims in the United States view this as a woeful hate crime (think how you would feel if Muslims planned to burn Bibles on Christmas Day), some radical Islamic jihadists in other parts of the world have anonymously threatened to bomb Jones' church (which has shrunk to 30 members since he unveiled his plan.)

Most people, including the majority of Christians in Gainesville, view Jones as a misguided religious zealot. After all, members of his church wear "ISLAM IS OF THE DEVIL" T-shirts—and they even have coffee mugs bearing the phrase. The New York Times reported last week that Jones packs a pistol because he receives death threats.


He also told the newspaper that he plans to go through with his plan to incinerate copies of the Quran even though the local fire department has denied him a burning permit.


The National Association of Evangelicals (NAE), which represents numerous Pentecostal denominations and charismatic fellowships, denounced Jones' actions in a recent statement. "The NAE calls on its members to cultivate relationships of trust and respect with our neighbors of other faiths. God created human beings in His image, and therefore all should be treated with dignity and respect," the statement said.
Contrary to what Jones and his followers believe, Jesus Christ condemned hateful religious intolerance. When He and His disciples entered a Samaritan village, and the Samaritans were less than hospitable, James and John told Jesus they wanted to call down fire from heaven on the whole place (see Luke 9:54).


Jesus flatly rebuked them, saying: "You do not know what kind of spirit you are of; for the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them" (v. 55-56, NASB).


Notice that James and John were eager to strike a match and conduct their own vengeful bonfire. In their immaturity they thought they could advance Christ's kingdom by fighting fire with fire. But Jesus contradicted their misdirected zeal and showed them that when we are opposed, the only way to win is through patience, compassion and forgiveness.


When Jesus was about to be arrested in the Garden of Gethsemane, an impetuous Peter came to His rescue and sliced off a slave's right ear. Jesus immediately healed the poor guy (don't you love the fact that Jesus can fix our stupid blunders?) and then rebuked Peter's crazed militarism by saying: "Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword" (Matthew 26:52).


Jesus never carried protest signs or staged book-burnings. If that had been His strategy, His disciples would have marched through Jerusalem with placards that said: "PROSTITUTION IS OF THE DEVIL," "UNFAIR TAXATION IS OF THE DEVIL" or "CAESAR WORSHIP IS OF THE DEVIL." All those sins are truly devilish, but you can't change people's behavior by condemning their actions. The only way anyone can ever find freedom from sin or satanic strongholds is by having a personal encounter with Christ.


The apostle Paul, whom we are called to imitate, didn't rattle swords or organize protests either. And even though he was inwardly irritated by the idolatry in Athens (see Acts 17:16), he preached to the men on Mars Hill about an unknown God who loved them. He did not insult them, call down fire on them or pull out a weapon. He knew that our Christian "warfare"—our invisible struggle with sin, deception and false gods—is not "according to the flesh" (2 Cor. 10:4). Rather, it involves humble acts like prayer and friendship evangelism.


Perhaps this embarrassing fiasco in Gainesville will help remind us how we are supposed to share the gospel with an unbelieving world: We do it with the same kind of unconditional love Jesus showed to the sinners, tax-collectors, prostitutes, lepers, Roman soldiers, pagans, homeless beggars and religious hypocrites He transformed.
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Re: Burning the Koran

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I mean, the best way to fight extremism is to be extreme, right? lol
Sure, if you're a member of the New Black Panther Party.

The only necessary justification for the mind of the would be extremist is a perceived threat.

Sometimes though, the human perception can be skewed.
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burn the koran!!!!!
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Wonder what the U S Military did with the Bibles they confiscated in Afghanistan.
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According to reports and unfortunately the chaplains gathered them up and they were burned BY the US military

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