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04-30-2011, 09:11 AM
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Re: Here Comes the Bride...............
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Originally Posted by kclee4jc
Also would like to point something out. In most conservative camps, we men wear white or at the very least a rather plain colored shirt. The Lord personally convicted me of wearing brightly colored and flashy shirts and ties. I don't judge others who do but I want what i do to be pleasing to God and to glorify Him. I guess I'm just trying to show that there is more balance and consistency that what some often realize.
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At least you are being consistent. Thank you.  And thanks for your good attitude.
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04-30-2011, 09:25 AM
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Re: Here Comes the Bride...............
Those who choose to abstain from all things which could lead to sin, please think of this, that everything we do could lead to sin, for your sake, please do not leave your house, watch TV, get off the Internet, not subscribe to the newspaper, get under the covers, and never come out from underneath them.
We are called to be lights in the darkness, and to live a modest life. I not all for wearing gawdy amounts of jewelry, but a modest necklace and ring is acceptable. Also, I look at it like this, that anything we wear, if it brings focus to the face, from which the scriptures say numerous times the glory of God shines, then it is godly. if it bring attention to the body in a sensual fashion, then it is carnal, ungodly, and wicked.
Above all else, instead of rules and poor hermeneutics, let us be led by the Spirit, confirmed by the Word.
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04-30-2011, 10:05 AM
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Re: Here Comes the Bride...............
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Originally Posted by Narrow Is The Way
...Why does the Bible close with a comparison of two women?
Why did the writer want us to know that the harlot was decked with gold?
...Any thoughts?
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The Bible closes with a comparison of two women. One is the false religious system (performance based religion which is not submitted to the righteousness of God) and the other is the Bride of Christ --The Church of Jesus Christ (which has submitted to Him). Purple and scarlet are used to show the best and brightest that man made righteousness and rules and regulations which affect the carnal exterior can be and the white garment depicts purity and the righteousness that God imputes and imparts.
Both brides are adorned with jewels and gold, etc. (ref Revelation 21:2, 10-27 where it says she was a bride adorned for her husband). How does God adorn His Bride? check out Isaiah 61:10 where it speaks about a bride adorning herself with a wedding dress and jewels. Check out how YHWH decked out His bride in Ezekiel 16. Check out how Abraham sent jewelry -- nose rings and bracelets-- to his future daughter-in-law in Genesis 24. In the 1 Peter chapter 3 passage where it speaks about women's adorning the author uses Sarah as an example. We don't read whether Sarah wore jewelry or not but we assume the ladies in Abraham's family wore jewelry because that is what he sent for the future bride of his son.
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04-30-2011, 10:06 AM
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Re: Here Comes the Bride...............
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Originally Posted by UnTraditional
...We are called to be lights in the darkness, and to live a modest life....
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Could modest mean moderate?
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04-30-2011, 10:10 AM
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Re: Here Comes the Bride...............
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Originally Posted by kclee4jc
...We also read in Isaiah 3:18,19 that "the Lord will snatch away their finery: the bangles and headbands and crescent necklaces, the earrings and bracelets and veils"....
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Well, Ezekiel was written after Isaiah.
In the Isaiah passage he also lists belts, hats, mirrors, well-set hair, perfume, etc. How much of this stuff listed is considered condemned?
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04-30-2011, 11:10 AM
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Re: Here Comes the Bride...............
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Originally Posted by Narrow Is The Way
And she isn't wearing any Jewelry.
Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
Rev 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
As opposed to the Harlot we read about in Chapter 17.
Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
Rev 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
Why does the Bible close with a comparison of two women?
Why did the writer want us to know that the harlot was decked with gold?
Why do people think adornment is not important?
If you wear Jewelry, are you concerned that the Bride of Christ was without Jewelry?
And for those of you that think I am only concerned about the outward appearance, is it just a coincidence that the harlot (adorned with all that jewelry) also was named as a fornicator, unrighteous, etc.?
I thought Jewelry was a deterrent to fornication according to the Geniuses that were posting on the wedding ring thread?
Last but not least, do you dress like the harlot or the bride? Is your spirit like the harlot or the Bride?
Looks to me like a bad spirit, an unholy heart, and a jewelry wearer go together.
Any thoughts?
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must look at the bible collectively:
Rev 21:2
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
KJV
refers to church as being adorned for her husband.
Ezek 16:8-13
8 Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine.
9 Then washed I thee with water; yea, I throughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil.
10 I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers' skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I covered thee with silk.
11 I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck.
12 And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head.
13 Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper into a kingdom.
KJV
Refers to how he found isreal took her in to be his wife, what did the husband do for wis wife? "I decked thee with ornaments"
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04-30-2011, 11:12 AM
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Re: Here Comes the Bride...............
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Originally Posted by Narrow Is The Way
You don't see Gods anger? Read verse 17?
The children of Israel never could handle jewelry, what makes you think you can?
Why do you think Peter and Paul preached against it? Were they mean spirit radicals or men moved on by the Holy Ghost?
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God gave them that jewelry in Ezekial, God. If it's sinful why did he do it?
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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04-30-2011, 11:27 AM
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Re: Here Comes the Bride...............
What the standards folks are missing is that not only was the harlot decked with jewels, so was God's BRIDE, the New Jerusalem. Personally, I believe the harlot is old Jerusalem from Ezekiel 16 where GOD gave her jewelry, and the new bride is the New Jerusalem, the church. In both cases, GOD GAVE THE WOMEN JEWELRY.
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04-30-2011, 12:04 PM
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Re: Here Comes the Bride...............
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Originally Posted by kclee4jc
Read on a little further brother!
15But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.
16And of thy garments thou didst take, and deckedst thy high places with divers colours, and playedst the harlot thereupon: the like things shall not come, neither shall it be so.
17Thou hast also taken thy fair jewels of my gold and of my silver, which I had given thee, and madest to thyself images of men, and didst commit whoredom with them
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So her sin was taking what God gave her...JEWELRY...and misusing it?
NOT THE JEWELRY?!?!?!?! Her sin was not having Jewerly. God gave that to her. Come on guys!!!! Wake up!!!
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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04-30-2011, 12:06 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Here Comes the Bride...............
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Originally Posted by kclee4jc
Also would like to point something out. In most conservative camps, we men wear white or at the very least a rather plain colored shirt. The Lord personally convicted me of wearing brightly colored and flashy shirts and ties. I don't judge others who do but I want what i do to be pleasing to God and to glorify Him. I guess I'm just trying to show that there is more balance and consistency that what some often realize.
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Can you describe how that happened?
This sounds like gnosticism all over again.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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