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Old 01-13-2012, 05:41 AM
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Re: Politics is "Of the World?"

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If we were running a company, would we retain people who deliberately transgressed company policies with blatant impunity? No. It is the same with the local, state, and federal government.
But alas, those things are allowed and are the norm. But the fix is so radical that it is inconceivable. Voting in independents, real honest people, and fire all of the dirt bags.
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but, you can always vote for the "other" party, right? (gags)
I suppose so...IF you are a person who votes along the party lines.

I have been ripped for voting my conscience by many people instead of party.
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There is a problem that I think needs to be redressed. The only 'rulers' that U.S. citizens actually have are the Constitution of the United States, and the various state constitutions. All citizens are to be bound to those only. Our politicians are not our learders, rulers, or governors. They have titles and responsiblities that are delegated to them by the people. This is because our fundamental laws state that the politicians and officials are servants who serve at the will of the people.
We the people keep forgetting to remind them of that.

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If we were running a company, would we retain people who deliberately transgressed company policies with blatant impunity? No. It is the same with the local, state, and federal government.
Tell me why then after we elect a new president, we seem to have the same old tired faces up in high cabinet positions?

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yes; your unique way of producing fruit becomes a sin with this model.
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uniqueness becomes a sin. you will conform.
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There is a problem that I think needs to be redressed. The only 'rulers' that U.S. citizens actually have are the Constitution of the United States, and the various state constitutions. All citizens are to be bound to those only. Our politicians are not our learders, rulers, or governors. They have titles and responsiblities that are delegated to them by the people. This is because our fundamental laws state that the politicians and officials are servants who serve at the will of the people.

If we were running a company, would we retain people who deliberately transgressed company policies with blatant impunity? No. It is the same with the local, state, and federal government.
Ha we give them bonuses, and promotions.
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uniqueness becomes a sin. you will conform.
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...or cross-dressing, or coveting, or freedom of religion (it's a sin not to be Christian, after all), or forsaking church attendance, or any other sins. Yes?
Uniqueness becomes a sin when we try to apply our standards to others.
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Uniqueness becomes a sin when we try to apply our standards to others.
Except when those standards are what God wants. Right?
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Except when those standards are what God wants. Right?
Well, to me that Q sounds like "except when those standards lead to life." I've realized that if I leave your personal choices up to you, and conform mine to God's desire, "life, more abundantly," while encouraging those choices in you that also lead to this life, and basically ignoring anything that, by this model, should die on its own, then I begin to grasp effectively the intent of your Q.
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