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Old 05-11-2012, 09:27 AM
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This is not Biblical. Where in scripture are we told that God loves everybody radically and unconditionally?

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This reveals the delusion. Teaching that Jesus loves and ACCEPTS us without condition. Anyone know a place where Jesus told anyone HE loves them and ACCEPTS them without conditions? This doctrine has ruined the faith of many and still is hard at work to portray another Jesus than the one the apostles presented.
"For God so LOVED THE WORLD that Je gave His only begotten Son..." John 3:16

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"But God demonstrates HIS LOVE for US, in that WHILE WE WERE YET SINNERS Christ died for US." Romans 5:8

"Greater love has no man than this, that a man would lay down his life for his friends" John 15

"For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 8:38-39

"Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. 2..And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3..And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned,[a] but have not love, it profits me nothing." -I Corinthians 13:1-3
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‎When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:01 AM
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I never realized this, but apparently the NT was originally in Hebrew? This Rabbi says that all your NT translations (OT, too, for that matter) are almost completely illegible,
having been translated by a non-Hebrew. Hmm.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:40 AM
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Jesus didn't condemn first, except for the self righteous religious folks. Because they perverted the truth.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:45 AM
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Jesus didn't condemn first, except for the self righteous religious folks. Because they perverted the truth.
Don't know about "first", but Jesus condemns those who don't believe. No matter if they're self-righteous or religious or whatever. John 3:18.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:47 AM
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Don't know about "first", but Jesus condemns those who don't believe. No matter if they're self-righteous or religious or whatever. John 3:18.
11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more. John 8:11 KJV
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2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV

He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more. John 8:11 KJV
Well, apparently, she believed!

Besides, as 3-steppers love to point out, that was still in the OT dispensation.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:48 AM
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17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. John 3:17 KJV
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2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV

He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. John 3:17 KJV
Are you trying to disprove my assertion? It's not working!
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17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. John 3:17 KJV
Cindy, God is the mean old dictator ready to wipe us out for not measuring up! Stop the mushy gushy scriptures that talk about compassion and love and God forgiveness and mercy. That's for weak minded jelly spined pseudo Christians! We need to tremble in fear because our father is a big time child abuser!
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DB, that sounded rather caustic to me. I can see where Bro. Robbins was coming from. I had some of the same thoughts that he did, but I did not see much point in asking for clarification.

Further, your understanding of our view of God is incomprehensibly incorrect. Jesus loves us, gives us grace and mercy, provided for our salvation at the cross, and gave Peter the keys to the kingdom so that we could know how to be saved (Acts 2:38). However, there are still commands that He gave that are expected to be followed or else we are none of His. This includes the abstaining from sin, anything that might lead to sin, anything that might be mistaken for sin, and anything that is a hindrance to our walk with God. Some people try to make the plain writings of Scripture so very difficult by saying that they no longer apply to us today. That is what confuses me.
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