No, it is true, in the cases I mentioned. Man+Woman=Nothing. If some change their minds, fine. Not all will. If infertile couples adopt, great. Gay couples can adopt, too. There is still no logic to be found in your stand, unless you also bar infertile couples from marrying, and bar fertile couple from marrying who don't intend to have children -- unless and until they change their minds, I suppose.
kids need a good father figure and a good mother figure. I know this doesnt always happen and there is many reasons why this doesnt happen.
But for kids that have this they tend to do better than those kids with single parents or parents of the same sex.
its not saying that there is not men and women couples out there that are total idiots and should not have kids, cause there is. My brothers step son is one of them and so is the mother of the 4 kids they have.
why are these kids suffering, because of sin. The mother is a druggie in and out of jail and the father is lazy refuses to work and is a leech on other peoples lives.
who suffers the kids do. what makes the difference in the kids lives? the Parents relationship with God.
My cousin is gay, she has a girlfriend. they raised a daughter. she grew up and by 17 had a kid. then what happened she basically abandoned her daughter now they are raisng their grandchild. what did this girl need. A father Figure.
People need to set up Some Godly heritages and standards for Kids to follow. Living in sin is not one of them.
I dont hate gays, they are people. they are apart of my family and my wife's side of the family has a bunch of them. But they will never get to Christ is they are constantly tripping over me condeming them to hell for their sin.
Until these people believe the bible to be real and true then, there is really nothing you can do for them.
No, it is true, in the cases I mentioned. Man+Woman=Nothing. If some change their minds, fine. Not all will. If infertile couples adopt, great. Gay couples can adopt, too. There is still no logic to be found in your stand, unless you also bar infertile couples from marrying, and bar fertile couple from marrying who don't intend to have children -- unless and until they change their minds, I suppose.
This is only slightly off the subject, but perhaps on it in spirit. I distinctly remember a Sunday school teacher telling his class (with me in it) that there was NO reason for a couple to date or marry if they had no intention of having kids. None.
This is only slightly off the subject, but perhaps on it in spirit. I distinctly remember a Sunday school teacher telling his class (with me in it) that there was NO reason for a couple to date or marry if they had no intention of having kids. None.
Contrary to the Bible's teaching/opinion that the only reason to marry is to have sex. No mention of children. 1 Corinthians 7:9.
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kids need a good father figure and a good mother figure. I know this doesnt always happen and there is many reasons why this doesnt happen.
But for kids that have this they tend to do better than those kids with single parents or parents of the same sex.
its not saying that there is not men and women couples out there that are total idiots and should not have kids, cause there is. My brothers step son is one of them and so is the mother of the 4 kids they have.
why are these kids suffering, because of sin. The mother is a druggie in and out of jail and the father is lazy refuses to work and is a leech on other peoples lives.
who suffers the kids do. what makes the difference in the kids lives? the Parents relationship with God.
My cousin is gay, she has a girlfriend. they raised a daughter. she grew up and by 17 had a kid. then what happened she basically abandoned her daughter now they are raisng their grandchild. what did this girl need. A father Figure.
People need to set up Some Godly heritages and standards for Kids to follow. Living in sin is not one of them.
I dont hate gays, they are people. they are apart of my family and my wife's side of the family has a bunch of them. But they will never get to Christ is they are constantly tripping over me condeming them to hell for their sin.
Until these people believe the bible to be real and true then, there is really nothing you can do for them.
Is it your opinion that parents who don't believe and follow the Bible cannot be good parents?
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Yes, hundreds. It's less common than opposite sex mating, same as with our species.
In nature, they don't have to prove anything. Just just live the way they live, and nobody else of their species seem to be bothered by it. And yes, sometimes, we could learn a few things from nature!
How about a list of those animals, with the result if they go against nature.
I know of one; the Bull. Here in Farm Country, one of my clients who is a farmer told me, if a Bull crosses the "Line" and starts mounting other males, they must kill it instantly. He will corrupt the entire herd of males.
We must also use caution when using animals to justify morality; animals kill, steal, and are not subject to the moral Laws of Humans.
Is it your opinion that parents who don't believe and follow the Bible cannot be good parents?
i think when it comes to morals there is good people (that we consider good) who can do well raising their kids up in a decent way to be acceptable to the world.
But i personaly say those who believe in the bible can be greater parents. cause they can lay the foundation of Christology in their life, and start helping them to understand the bible.
so yes there can be good parents who dont believe in the bible, but a greater parent who beleives in the Bible teaches their kids things of the bible for eternal salvation..
How about a list of those animals, with the result if they go against nature.
I know of one; the Bull. Here in Farm Country, one of my clients who is a farmer told me, if a Bull crosses the "Line" and starts mounting other males, they must kill it instantly. He will corrupt the entire herd of males.
We must also use caution when using animals to justify morality; animals kill, steal, and are not subject to the moral Laws of Humans.
this also reminds me of a story about a herd of elephants who grew up with out parents. the calves was wild and destructive the older they Got, some had to be put down. However they found out when they brought in a older male elephant this elephant brought control back to the herd and the rebelious ones that they didnt kill fell in line. so i can see exactly what your saying.
How about a list of those animals, with the result if they go against nature.
I know of one; the Bull. Here in Farm Country, one of my clients who is a farmer told me, if a Bull crosses the "Line" and starts mounting other males, they must kill it instantly. He will corrupt the entire herd of males.
We must also use caution when using animals to justify morality; animals kill, steal, and are not subject to the moral Laws of Humans.
I know of one; the Bull. Here in Farm Country, one of my clients who is a farmer told me, if a Bull crosses the "Line" and starts mounting other males, they must kill it instantly. He will corrupt the entire herd of males.
We must also use caution when using animals to justify morality; animals kill, steal, and are not subject to the moral Laws of Humans.
Yep. That's why I said "sometimes".
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Yes, the Bull will incite sexual desire in the WRONG direction, creating an out of control mob of Bulls. They kill it instantly when they discover the problem.
Also, the Farmer who told me this wasn't even trying to convince me one way or the other about the Homosexual agenda. I knew this Farmer was involved with cattle ranching, so I asked about animals and if they cross that "Line".
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