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Originally Posted by LUKE2447
Most do. because you are a exception doesn't negate what I constantly see.
A view of eating healthy is relative to your knowledge. The actual fact of whether it is eating healthy is another thing. I would say for the most part dairy and sugars (unless eaten from the natural state at best) are for the most part not good for you. I could get into meat aspects but I won't get into a health study. My point is concerning many people and how they are toward food and then act toward this fast as it is a current fad. From all the churches I have went to and visited the vast majority are not healthy at all.
Did I say that? If you read what I said you would know I didn't.
again context is about people and how they act toward this fast while eating unhealthy and continuing to. When it comes to the fast. overall that is how most people should eat for the most part. That is your strawman as your point is not within what I said as a whole.
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The point is this:
1. "Healthy" eating is subjective. There are many qualified sources that would disagree that being vegan or vegetarian is the only way to eat a healthy diet. Your opinion about that is no more important than mine, unless you're a doctor or nutritionist. I agree with you about sugar, and we rarely eat any kind of refined sugars. Usually it's from fruit, dates, honey, blackstrap molasses or stevia. We drink dairy products that are from hormone-free cows and completely avoid processed cheeses. We eat lean meats and never deep-fry anything. We drink lots of water and avoid sodas. My kids never have kool-aid or any sugary drinks, and all of them are slim and athletic. I have read a lot of material about different diets and dietary lifestyles, and I'm quite satisfied that it's okay for humans to eat meat. If Jesus can eat fish, then so can I.
2. It is a straw man because you're using the fact that people should be "eating that way anyway" and the possibility that they "go right back to eating unhealthy" as supportive arguments. If they aren't supporting your argument, why throw them in there?
Since I apparently am not understanding your POV, or why you feel that way, can you restate it--with only the ideas you actually intend to use to prop it up?
One other thought about the Daniel Fast: Vegan or Vegetarian diets are not necessarily "unpleasant" unless you purposely have them bland. A Daniel Fast excludes pleasant food, which IMO excludes sugars and seasonings. Again, it is a sacrifice, even for the vegan, to eat a bland diet. My husband and I did a 6 month vegetarian "cleanse" of sorts after my second daughter was born and we definitely didn't avoid things that tasted good--it isn't part of the normal vegan/vegetarian diet to eat everything bland. So even if a person is a vegan or vegetarian, going bland, avoiding fruits, dates, honey, seasonings, etc. would be a departure from the norm.
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