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Old 10-23-2015, 08:34 PM
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Unless a soul "receives a love of The TRUTH they can not be saved" from their own self ("I", ego, id, pride) life! (II Thessalonians 2:10-13)

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogs...uth-to-be.html

For TRUTH IS! and simply that which is not of The TRUTH, IS NOT.......

Sadly, the multitudes of worldly and/or religious ones but serve time in the prison that is this world, for they are bound in the chains of "strong delusion" as they follow "the father of lies" along that "broad way to destruction" and damnation! (John 7:7, I John 2:15-17; 5:19, James 1:27; 4:4, Matthew 7:13)

"Come out from among them and be separate"! (II Corinthians 6:17)
So, if I don't believe like you do concerning eschatology then I haven't received a love of the truth?
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Old 10-23-2015, 08:36 PM
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"Come out from among them and be separate"! (II Corinthians 6:17)
Come out from who and become separate from what?
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Re: The dawg-ma of trinity is = to Preterism

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Come out from who and become separate from what? :)
Foolishness and the foolish!

Unless a soul "receives a love of The TRUTH they can not be saved" from their own self ("I", ego, id, pride) life! (II Thessalonians 2:10-13)

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogs...uth-to-be.html

For TRUTH IS! and simply that which is not of The TRUTH, IS NOT.......

Sadly, the multitudes of worldly and/or religious ones but serve time in the prison that is this world, for they are bound in the chains of "strong delusion" as they follow "the father of lies" along that "broad way to destruction" and damnation! (John 7:7, I John 2:15-17; 5:19, James 1:27; 4:4, Matthew 7:13)

"Come out from among them and be separate"! (II Corinthians 6:17)
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So Thankfully, "The Peace that surpasses ALL understanding" IS! in spite of the dis-ease (no-peace) that is of this evil world and/or religion's way! (Philippians 4:7, John 14:27; 7:7, I John 2:15-17; 5:19, James 1:27; 4:4)

ALL Thanks and Praise Be Unto Our FATHER(TRUTH, SPIRIT, CREATOR, GOD, LORD, MASTER, LIGHT, LOVE, LIFE,,,,,,, ALL IN ALL that which IS Truly GOOD)! (John 20:17; 14:28, Mark 10:18)
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So, if I don't believe like you do concerning eschatology then I haven't received a love of the truth?
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Foolishness and the foolish!

Unless a soul "receives a love of The TRUTH they can not be saved" from their own self ("I", ego, id, pride) life! (II Thessalonians 2:10-13)

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogs...uth-to-be.html

For TRUTH IS! and simply that which is not of The TRUTH, IS NOT.......

Sadly, the multitudes of worldly and/or religious ones but serve time in the prison that is this world, for they are bound in the chains of "strong delusion" as they follow "the father of lies" along that "broad way to destruction" and damnation! (John 7:7, I John 2:15-17; 5:19, James 1:27; 4:4, Matthew 7:13)

"Come out from among them and be separate"! (II Corinthians 6:17)


Whose this chap?
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Re: The dawg-ma of trinity is = to Preterism

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Whose this chap?
The Voice of the latest Last Day Prophet of God, the newest Faithful and Discreet Slave, America's new Alexander Campbell, the newest recipient of the plates of Moroni. He apparently believes that ALL Bibles are corrupted, perverted, 'biased', untrustworthy, including 'the originals'. He even started a thread over in the debate section about it. Fascinating reading. Definitely 'proper spiritual food dispensed in proper time'. I'm pretty sure (insert preferred Tetragrammaton version here) is currently inspecting this eloquent 'seeker of truth' and will shortly appoint him ruler of all His household. Might even get him an office in Brooklyn, too.

Oh, apparently the Mennonites want to know who he is too - http://www.network54.com/Forum/41988...age/1278813669

He was real popular over there. They called him 'this joker', must be a Bible code thing or something...
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The Voice of the latest Last Day Prophet of God, the newest Faithful and Discreet Slave, America's new Alexander Campbell, the newest recipient of the plates of Moroni. He apparently believes that ALL Bibles are corrupted, perverted, 'biased', untrustworthy, including 'the originals'. He even started a thread over in the debate section about it. Fascinating reading. Definitely 'proper spiritual food dispensed in proper time'. I'm pretty sure (insert preferred Tetragrammaton version here) is currently inspecting this eloquent 'seeker of truth' and will shortly appoint him ruler of all His household. Might even get him an office in Brooklyn, too.

Oh, apparently the Mennonites want to know who he is too - http://www.network54.com/Forum/41988...age/1278813669

He was real popular over there. They called him 'this joker', must be a Bible code thing or something...
Francis...is this true?
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Re: The dawg-ma of trinity is = to Preterism

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Francis...is this true?
Simply sad for you and all the worldly and/or religious ones who have never experienced The Miracle that IS "receiving a love of The TRUTH so that they might be saved" from their own self ("I", ego, id, pride) life......

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogs...uth-to-be.html
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HE DID! and HE does.......

So Thankfully, "The Peace that surpasses ALL understanding" IS! in spite of the dis-ease (no-peace) that is of this evil world and/or religion's way! (Philippians 4:7, John 14:27; 7:7, I John 2:15-17; 5:19, James 1:27; 4:4)

ALL Thanks and Praise Be Unto Our FATHER(TRUTH, SPIRIT, CREATOR, GOD, LORD, MASTER, LIGHT, LOVE, LIFE,,,,,,, ALL IN ALL that which IS Truly GOOD)! (John 20:17; 14:28, Mark 10:18)
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Re: The dawg-ma of trinity is = to Preterism

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So, if I don't believe like you do concerning eschatology then I haven't received a love of the truth?
You guys probably don't shadow the door of our meetings much.

But over the last 10-15 yrs in our conferences around the world the elders that preach let it rip vehemently against preterism.

I hesatated even posting on this thread out of respect for you sincere men.

All I can say in regards to eschatology is.

The cold winds of change are in the blowing, we all will find out over the coming years, and may in fact find out we're all wrong.

God don't let many know the mysteries of God.

There are no A.D. Urshans' or Verbal Beans' among us anymore.

The question I ask myself often is : Ask not where is the God of Verbal Bean, but where is the Verbal Bean of God?

That is why as things change I dig deeper and deeper into the writing of the elders and pioneers that brought us where we have come thus far.

It is no time to consider something new, no matter how good it may be put together.

Not a time to change philosophy, a about the basics.

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Fasting
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Acts 2:38
Living seperate and Godly
Revival
Evangelism
Tithing
Communion
The trumpet sounding, and eminent appearing of our lord in the sky, and rapture if the church.

Elder Hyler always told us in our services and young ministers classes, "you boys don't worry about preaching and get caught up in all this stuff, you need to be out ther on the streets with a bible under one arm and a bible study chart under the other."

Acts 1:7
And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me....
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Old 10-24-2015, 12:33 PM
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Re: The dawg-ma of trinity is = to Preterism

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You guys probably don't shadow the door of our meetings much.

But over the last 10-15 yrs in our conferences around the world the elders that preach let it rip vehemently against preterism.

I hesatated even posting on this thread out of respect for you sincere men.

All I can say in regards to eschatology is.

The cold winds of change are in the blowing, we all will find out over the coming years, and may in fact find out we're all wrong.

God don't let many know the mysteries of God.

There are no A.D. Urshans' or Verbal Beans' among us anymore.

The question I ask myself often is : Ask not where is the God of Verbal Bean, but where is the Verbal Bean of God?

That is why as things change I dig deeper and deeper into the writing of the elders and pioneers that brought us where we have come thus far.

It is no time to consider something new, no matter how good it may be put together.

Not a time to change philosophy, a about the basics.

Prayer
Fasting
1 God
Acts 2:38
Living seperate and Godly
Revival
Evangelism
Tithing
Communion
The trumpet sounding, and eminent appearing of our lord in the sky, and rapture if the church.

Elder Hyler always told us in our services and young ministers classes, "you boys don't worry about preaching and get caught up in all this stuff, you need to be out ther on the streets with a bible under one arm and a bible study chart under the other."

Acts 1:7
And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me....
Your sincerity is liken unto a breath(spirit) of fresh air, although i do not agree, nor can i receive of such.......

Yet it came to me to expound on Acts 1:7:

"And he(The Messiah) said unto them(His disciples), it is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which The Father(The FATHER and GOD of The Messiah and His brethren) has put in HIS(Our FATHER and GOD) Own Power. But you will receive Power, after that the Holy(Set Apart SPIRIT) Ghost is come upon you, and you shall be witnesses unto Me(The Messiah)....

And to bear witness unto A Testimony of The Messiah that speaks, "I ascend unto My FATHER, and your FATHER, and to My GOD, and your GOD!" (John 20:17)
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HE DID! and HE does.......

So Thankfully, "The Peace that surpasses ALL understanding" IS! in spite of the dis-ease (no-peace) that is of this evil world and/or religion's way! (Philippians 4:7, John 14:27; 7:7, I John 2:15-17; 5:19, James 1:27; 4:4)

ALL Thanks and Praise Be Unto Our FATHER(TRUTH, SPIRIT, CREATOR, GOD, LORD, MASTER, LIGHT, LOVE, LIFE,,,,,,, ALL IN ALL that which IS Truly GOOD)! (John 20:17; 14:28, Mark 10:18)
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