John 3: The Difference between PCI and PAJC on New Birth

[SDG]

Looks like you have a following PP ..

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Whatevah ... as for your oldtime PCIers and PAJCers were New Birth twins comments ... do you recant????

You persist in saying I said something i did not say.

They were not twins; I never said they were.

I said that they were far more focused on and passionate about the Acts 2:38 message than the guys who claim their title today.

Are you deliberately blowing smoke, or are you just having trouble with reading comprehension?

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Looks like you have a following PP ..

Looks like Bernie does too.

Had a breath of fresh air lately?

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

You persist in saying I said something i did not say.

They were not twins; I never said they were.

I said that they were far more focused on and passionate about the Acts 2:38 message than the guys who claim their title today.

Are you deliberately blowing smoke, or are you just having trouble with reading comprehension?

HAHAHA!!!!

Sic em boy!

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

You persist in saying I said something i did not say.

They were not twins; I never said they were.

I said that they were far more focused on and passionate about the Acts 2:38 message than the guys who claim their title today.

Are you deliberately blowing smoke, or are you just having trouble with reading comprehension?

OPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP PPSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

[commonsense]

Originally Posted by Sam

When the UPC was formed in 1945, the PCI had a magazine called "The Apostolic Herald" and the PAJC had a magazine called "The Pentecostal Outlook." It was decided to replace these magazines with a new one for the new organization.


This the first issue of The Pentecostal Herald, which is the official organ of the United Pentecostal Church, is the direct result of the merger of the two former papers, The Pentecostal Outlook and the Apostolic Herald. When the two former organizations, namely, The Pentecostal Assemblies of Jesus Christ, Inc., and The Pentecostal Church, Inc., merged into one united organization, the two papers were merged into one. This we acknowledge with joy and great satisfaction, and look forward to a greater paper for the glory of God and the progress of truth.

The two former conferences agreed to make this paper open for articles pertaining to truths that may or may not be the opinion of all brethren, so long as these articles do not conflict with the Fundamentals of Faith of the United Pentecostal Church. However, the Editor is to be governed by the spirit of the article, and whenever the spirit of controversy is noticed in the article he is to act accordingly, and refer such articles to the Board of Publication



Articles for the Herald are solicited, and those who are capable of writing should keep a supply at Headquarters continually. These articles should be typed and double spaced; the writer should take every pain in preparing this material knowing that it will be read by tens of thousands of people. Further, if your articles should be rejected, or if you should not see it immediately, or even if you do not hear from the Editor regarding it, do not take offense at this, but pray God to give you something better and worthy of this great paper.


Yours in Jesus,
Oscar Vouga

Editor's Note: The preparation of this, the first issue of The Pentecostal Herald, was handled by our Brother Vouga, who is the retiring editor of The Apostolic Herald. We take this opportunity of extending to him our appreciation for his fine services in the preparation of this material.

It demonstrates my belief that the early "saints" were far more tolerant of each other. What a wonderful document to have. As hard as it is to accept or believe ,there are those in the UPCI trying to rewrite history.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

The new birth is a creative life-giving operation of the Holy Spirit upon a lost human soul, whereby in response to faith in Christ crucified (John 3:14-16; Gal 3:24), the believing one, "dead in trespasses and sins" (Eph 2:1), is quickened into spiritual life and made a partaker of the divine nature and of the life of Christ Himself (Gal 2:20; Eph 2:10; Col 1:27; 1 Peter 1:23-25; 2 Peter 1:4). The complete necessity of this spiritual transaction is the result of fallen man's state of spiritual death, his alienation from God, and his consequent utter inability to "see" (John 3:3) or "to enter into" the kingdom of God (3:5). No matter how moral, refined, talented, or religious the natural or unregenerate man may be, he is blind to spiritual truth and unable to save himself (3:6; cf. Ps 51:5; 1 Cor 2:14; Rom 8:7-8). It is clear, therefore, that the new birth is not the reformation of the old nature but the reception of a new nature.

Good word, Pastor Poster

reminds me of something the late Dr. M.R. De Haan (1891-1965) said:
"You may train a lion to jump through a hoop, sit on a stool, or turn a somersault, but it will still be a lion. You may wrap a sow in silks and satins, but it still longs for the pig sty. And you may dress up your old, sinful nature received from father Adam with religion, reformation, education, culture, and what not, but you can never change it."

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

You persist in saying I said something i did not say.

They were not twins; I never said they were.

I said that they were far more focused on and passionate about the Acts 2:38 message than the guys who claim their title today.

Are you deliberately blowing smoke, or are you just having trouble with reading comprehension?

Hooked on phonics done me good

They loved this New Birth, Oneness Message.

Your words, not mine.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Looks like Bernie does too.

Had a breath of fresh air lately?

Can I serve you some more koolaid???

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

HAHAHA!!!!

Sic em boy!

I sense a sadistic spirit.