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09-03-2007, 11:36 AM
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It might be an interesting book. It seems to support my premise that todays' regulations were not part of the "beginning" of the Oneness movement.
My parents were both saved many years before the formation of the UPC .
Most of the standards I hear and see enforced in todays' church were not taught in the 40's or 50's.....so the yesterday, today and forever doesn't apply.
Not against teaching guidelines, but it has been made the 4th step in salvation.
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09-03-2007, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by tv1a
If I could get all the people I know who fell through the cracks because of the lies of legalism, I would have 500 people in my church on the first Sunday. My only prayer the the legalists who inflict this damaged are judged by God for their deeds. If the Bible is correct, those who judge will be judged.
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Quit talking and start doing. What's holding you back?
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09-03-2007, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by tv1a
1. I don't have a church.
2. One of major traits of a legalist is one cannot be saved outside of their paradigm.
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Oh well then you are irrelevant.  j/k Have a great day!
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
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09-03-2007, 11:54 AM
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"It's Never Too Late"
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Meet my paint gun ....
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That picture reminds me of Michael Dukakis.
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09-03-2007, 11:57 AM
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"It's Never Too Late"
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
I will investigate how you can get a copy of the book, Neck.
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09-03-2007, 11:57 AM
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I'm busy working the vision my pastor has for our community. When the time comes to move on, I'll move. Right now I am in the perfect will of God.
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Quit talking and start doing. What's holding you back?
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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09-03-2007, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by commonsense
It might be an interesting book. It seems to support my premise that todays' regulations were not part of the "beginning" of the Oneness movement.
My parents were both saved many years before the formation of the UPC .
Most of the standards I hear and see enforced in todays' church were not taught in the 40's or 50's.....so the yesterday, today and forever doesn't apply.
Not against teaching guidelines, but it has been made the 4th step in salvation.
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There is but one step.
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09-03-2007, 12:04 PM
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I will take that as a compliment. lol
I consider it an honor to be irrelevent in a movement that lives in a time warp. lol
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Oh well then you are irrelevant. j/k Have a great day! |
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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09-03-2007, 12:09 PM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Originally Posted by tv1a
How did we find out about if he didn't write about it?
Paul didn't have to disfellowship because he realized legalism is a spirit and confronted the spirit. It just so happened the guy with the "keys" happend to be influenced by that spirit. Once Peter realized the direction he was heading, he made a change that even effected his writing. Peter's epistles were a far cry for the legalistic venom he espoused in the book of Acts.
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I am truly rolling on the floor laughing at this!!!!!!!!!!!!
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09-03-2007, 12:12 PM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
If you no longer want to be in the UPC---leave. I don't understand the "parting shots" mentality. No one left the UPC with more integrity IMO than L.H. Hardwick back in the 60s or 70s. There just seems to be so much poison in Langston's words. His picture doesn't help reinforce the idea that he has the joy of the Lord. How hard is it to smile when you have the Holy Ghost? And I say the same thing when I see flyers for UC meetings and most of the preachers have this same kind of expression on their faces.
Leave with your dignity---just leave and do what you feel you've got to do. He will have to live with these words for the rest of his life. I doubt that he will convince people either way. He will offend those he wants to part ways with and he will feed the bitterness that some ex-UPCers can't seem to let go of.
Just go and do what you gotta do!
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Deacon,
I want to commend you for a post that shows both integrity and ethics. We may have our differences at times, but I truly appreciate this post. It says a lot about your character.
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