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Old 12-11-2007, 01:31 AM
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Assuming that YOU didn't stay in one physical location, the lag in trying to do simple things like email would be terrible. Multiply that by 2 or 3 billion and the whole network fails.

The reasons given for the "single IP address" is because of the fears of what happens when IPv4 and IPv6 run out of addresses, not for tracking purposes. They want to economize on the numbers of assigned addresses. If it went to a "single IP address" system then that IP addy would be some virtual location like your employer or your ISP or your employer's ISP.

All of the devices that you mention would then be routed to that virtual location where you would log on from anywhere in the world. You would still need another unique identifier to tell us that you're in Taiwan this week. If you took your "private" IP to Taiwan (and 2 or 3 billion people were moving around as well) the routing table updates alone would crash the whole Internet.
Agreed the purpose is to limit the number of IP addresses 6-7 billion people vs Lord only knows how many individual devices.

Not sure routing to private IP would present that much of an insurmountable technological challenge. Just faster processors.
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Old 12-11-2007, 10:08 AM
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WOW!!! Seldom have I seen such a outstanding combo of humor and absolute truth. I LOVED this post!!

What I do not understand is how people can continue to just hide their heads in the sand and pretend that it isn't happening. I cannot add anything to what you've said, you have said it all.
Dizzy, I have to call 'em like I see 'em. It's called stubbornness, which the bible states is no different than idolatry.

Here's a thought.....The only difference between a sandbox and a litter box is whether or not there's a cat in the neighborhood.

We can insist that the sandbox we have our heads buried in (anything that is not called TV) is different from that nasty old litter box (Hellivision). But a cat doesn't care what you call it. He will use them both for the same dirty purpose. So the question is not whether the medium you are using is holy, but rather what are YOU going to do with it.

If I get a minute, I'll come back and debunk the myth that filtering and blocking software sanctifies your PC. The truth is you can put a fence or enclosure around any sandbox to keep the kitties out of it.
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Old 12-11-2007, 04:00 PM
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Oops. Just realized my last post could be confused as a reply to the posts regarding individual IP addresses, the mark of the beast, etc. Here is the intended context, to eliminate any possible confusion.

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind
Such is the rant of this argument silly. They predicted camera phones in the 60's having video conferencing would be commonplace. The age of the Jetsons is not quite here yet.


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Jesus ascended into the heavens more than 2000 years ago and said in essence "I'll be right back". He still hasn't come yet, but we know he IS coming back. What is silly is waiting to accept the inevitable until we have to look ridiculous doing it. I was one of the last to break down and finally get a CD player. They may sound a little better, but they're not nearly as durable as a cassette. And 8-tracks were practically indestructable. But when they quit making them, eventually everybody had to switch formats. Whether it is 2 years, 5 years, 10 years, whatever, they will eventually do away with the current option, charge you twice as much for the combo TV/Computer unit because you're getting "2 for the price of 1" and hey isn't that so much better than what you had before, they'll say. It won't matter that you really don't want the new technology. They'll just quit making those old jalopy model limited use personal computers and you will keep saying, "I am not getting a TV!" But eventually your old computer will give up the ghost and because of your infernal addiction to AFF, you will march yerself right into Wal-Mart and buy the dreaded combo. Of course you can hang a sign on it that announces in big bold letters, "THIS TV IS NOT USED FOR WATCHING TELEVISION! I ONLY USE IT TO WARN MY FRIENDS ON INTERNET FORUMS OF THE DANGERS OF LETTING DOWN ON THEIR STAND AGAINST TELEVISION!" But it will still be what it is. But you will not be any less holy than you were before you purchased it because you will still operate the thing according to your bible-based principles and convictions.

By the way, who are these Jetsons you speak of? I'm assuming they are a gospel singing group? What's the issue with them? Are they wanting to just advertise on TV or do a whole concert? hmmmmm?......



My point exactly. I know I come across as pro-TV, but I'm really just pro-honest with ourselves. I do have a TV in my home. It doesn't get any channels because it's not hooked up to cable or even to the satellite dish that is still sitting on top of my house from the people who lived there before me. (just too busy trying to pastor while working full-time to get up there and take it down). I used to tell my kids not to call it a TV, but when I bought the newer model 10 years ago, they no longer made it with big knobs that I could cut off to "disable" it so that my good wouldn't be evil spoken of when people saw my "monitor". I'll never forget how shocked I was to find out that many saints with their unsightly makeshift monitors (TV's maimed by cutting off the channel knobs) were routing cable TV through their VCR even though casual passers by could clearly see the evil contraption had been successfully sterilized. We used to say, "Kids, we're going to watch a "family video", so pull up your "monitor" trays. But it just started sounding kind of stupid after a while. It is a TV, but I have exercised total control over it.

We are looking increasingly foolish as we try to fool ourselves into thinking that we are fooling everybody else into thinking that we are not a bunch of fools!

Originally posted by DizzyDe:
WOW!!! Seldom have I seen such a outstanding combo of humor and absolute truth. I LOVED this post!!

What I do not understand is how people can continue to just hide their heads in the sand and pretend that it isn't happening. I cannot add anything to what you've said, you have said it all.
Dizzy, I have to call 'em like I see 'em. It's called stubbornness, which the bible states is no different than idolatry.

Here's a thought.....The only difference between a sandbox and a litter box is whether or not there's a cat in the neighborhood.

We can insist that the sandbox we have our heads buried in (anything that is not called TV) is different from that nasty old litter box (Hellivision). But a cat doesn't care what you call it. He will use them both for the same dirty purpose. So the question is not whether the medium you are using is holy, but rather what are YOU going to do with it.

If I get a minute, I'll come back and debunk the myth that filtering and blocking software sanctifies your PC. The truth is you can put a fence or enclosure around any sandbox to keep the kitties out of it.
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Old 12-11-2007, 04:11 PM
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Jesus ascended into the heavens more than 2000 years ago and said in essence "I'll be right back". He still hasn't come yet, but we know he IS coming back. What is silly is waiting to accept the inevitable until we have to look ridiculous doing it. I was one of the last to break down and finally get a CD player. They may sound a little better, but they're not nearly as durable as a cassette. And 8-tracks were practically indestructable. But when they quit making them, eventually everybody had to switch formats.
CD's sound a "little" better then 8-Track? But not quite as durable? LOL
I barely remember 8-Track but one thing I DO remember about it was how often the tapes would be chewed up and spit out. Sure, the cases were built like tanks but due to the continues loop nature, they did not last long. And then that horrible horrible sound! ARGH. Also, I have CD's that look like a steel pad was applied to them yet they still play! (in the right player of course.)
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Old 12-11-2007, 04:17 PM
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CD's sound a "little" better then 8-Track? But not quite as durable? LOL
I barely remember 8-Track but one thing I DO remember about it was how often the tapes would be chewed up and spit out. Sure, the cases were built like tanks but due to the continues loop nature, they did not last long. And then that horrible horrible sound! ARGH. Also, I have CD's that look like a steel pad was applied to them yet they still play! (in the right player of course.)
Even cassettes for that matter, had one unwind in a player while listening to a Stoneking tape, never did get it all out.
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