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Old 04-16-2007, 02:18 PM
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Chan,

You seem to have a hornet in your bonnet today!
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Old 04-16-2007, 02:18 PM
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Chancellor, this is tragic. Any death is tragic. Man was not meant to die.
We were not designed for death.
Jesus came to redeem us from the curse of death which Sin brought upon us all.
An American death is tragic, so is a Canadian, or an African, or Chinese.

It doesn't lessen the tragedy of this day in Virginia.
No, it doesn't lessen it but we humans tend to differentiate in such a way that we tend to view some deaths as somehow more tragic than others. I think part of why Jesus said what He said in Luke 13:1-3 was to correct that tendency in His disciples.
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Old 04-16-2007, 02:19 PM
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Chan,

You seem to have a hornet in your bonnet today!
Is it paper or buzzing?!
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Old 04-16-2007, 02:26 PM
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The Scripture that Renda gave us for encouragement this morning is profitable this afternoon...


You will keep in perfect peace all who trust in you, all whose thoughts are fixed on you!

Isaiah 26:3, NLT


For those injured this day, for the grieving families, and grieving students and faculty, may the perfect peace of the Almighty rest on them this day...
I bumped this, not because it is my post, but to remind us to be prayerful.

When praying for kids in school, I think about my nieces and nephews in grade school and up, but don't really consider that college/university can be as dangerous.

May God set a hedge of protection around all of our children as they travel to and from school and throughout their day...
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Old 04-16-2007, 02:52 PM
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Chan,

You seem to have a hornet in your bonnet today!
you can bet it's probably a paper one...
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Old 04-16-2007, 02:53 PM
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I bumped this, not because it is my post, but to remind us to be prayerful.

When praying for kids in school, I think about my nieces and nephews in grade school and up, but don't really consider that college/university can be as dangerous.

May God set a hedge of protection around all of our children as they travel to and from school and throughout their day...
Yes, and might I add Pray for them every day.
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Old 04-16-2007, 03:02 PM
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Yes, and as is so typical of the media, they are selective in their reporting and that selectivity so often tends to ignore certain communities or groups of people.
How bogus! Do you suppose for one minute that had this shooting occurred at Howard University, it wouldn't generate the attention of the media to the extent it has now?

Yes Chan there is a difference between thugs killing thugs and thousands of university students being terrorized by a gunman whose actions were likely never contemplated by millions of students, parents and families.

The media is drawn to this because it touches a raw nerve. It lets us know that the mass shooting like this could have happened at just about any university. And most of America knows and loves someone who attends such a unversity or has a child attending a university; or they attended a university themselves. THEY CAN RELATE TO IT.

Most of America can't relate to gangs killing gangs. They can't relate to children having children and communities that glamorize gangsters and rap.

Most probably feel that they would do whatever they had to do to not live in such a place where killing is normal and feel helpless and hopeless about those who don't move out of such neighborhoods (whatever it takes).

And so Chan the media just might make terror and mass murder at a universtiy the headline news today instead of putting the picture of another dead drug dealer on the front page. Such is life in a free market economy.
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Old 04-16-2007, 03:09 PM
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How bogus! Do you suppose for one minute that had this shooting occurred at Howard University, it wouldn't generate the attention of the media to the extent it has now?
Maybe, maybe not.

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Yes Chan there is a difference between thugs killing thugs and thousands of university students being terrorized by a gunman whose actions were likely never contemplated by millions of students, parents and families.
No, there really is no difference.

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The media is drawn to this because it touches a raw nerve. It lets us know that the mass shooting like this could have happened at just about any university. And most of America knows and loves someone who attends such a unversity or has a child attending a university; or they attended a university themselves. THEY CAN RELATE TO IT.
But why does this touch a "raw nerve" and certain other murders don't? Why do we humans insist on placing greater or lesser value on people?

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Most of America can't relate to gangs killing gangs. They can't relate to children having children and communities that glamorize gangsters and rap.
So, that makes deaths in those communities not worthy of our attention?

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Most probably feel that they would do whatever they had to do to not live in such a place where killing is normal and feel helpless and hopeless about those who don't move out of such neighborhoods (whatever it takes).
What this has to do with the subject at hand, I don't know.

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And so Chan the media just might make terror and mass murder at a universtiy the headline news today instead of putting the picture of another dead drug dealer on the front page. Such is life in a free market economy.
It has nothing to do with the free market and the economy and you know it!
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Old 04-16-2007, 03:11 PM
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How bogus! Do you suppose for one minute that had this shooting occurred at Howard University, it wouldn't generate the attention of the media to the extent it has now?

Yes Chan there is a difference between thugs killing thugs and thousands of university students being terrorized by a gunman whose actions were likely never contemplated by millions of students, parents and families.

The media is drawn to this because it touches a raw nerve. It lets us know that the mass shooting like this could have happened at just about any university. And most of America knows and loves someone who attends such a unversity or has a child attending a university; or they attended a university themselves. THEY CAN RELATE TO IT.

Most of America can't relate to gangs killing gangs. They can't relate to children having children and communities that glamorize gangsters and rap.

Most probably feel that they would do whatever they had to do to not live in such a place where killing is normal and feel helpless and hopeless about those who don't move out of such neighborhoods (whatever it takes).

And so Chan the media just might make terror and mass murder at a universtiy the headline news today instead of putting the picture of another dead drug dealer on the front page. Such is life in a free market economy.
It pains me to say this but this has to be one of the best posts I have read since I have been on any forum. If I get in trouble this lady will get a call from me and I might even backslide and vote for her if she ran for office. Home run knocked out of the park!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:tip hat
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Old 04-16-2007, 03:12 PM
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How bogus! Do you suppose for one minute that had this shooting occurred at Howard University, it wouldn't generate the attention of the media to the extent it has now?

Yes Chan there is a difference between thugs killing thugs and thousands of university students being terrorized by a gunman whose actions were likely never contemplated by millions of students, parents and families.

The media is drawn to this because it touches a raw nerve. It lets us know that the mass shooting like this could have happened at just about any university. And most of America knows and loves someone who attends such a unversity or has a child attending a university; or they attended a university themselves. THEY CAN RELATE TO IT.

Most of America can't relate to gangs killing gangs. They can't relate to children having children and communities that glamorize gangsters and rap.

Most probably feel that they would do whatever they had to do to not live in such a place where killing is normal and feel helpless and hopeless about those who don't move out of such neighborhoods (whatever it takes).

And so Chan the media just might make terror and mass murder at a universtiy the headline news today instead of putting the picture of another dead drug dealer on the front page. Such is life in a free market economy.
Great post, Newman...you said in one post what I've been trying to say all afternoon!!
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