Divine Flesh? I guess that's why he says, "you have chosen to proclaim a Christ that is earthly, corruptible, sinful in nature, and mortal like unto you."
I don't know who he is but he sounds like the many folk who condemn everyone else who do do no believe everything just like they do.
Knowing his situation as I do, I believe he's a bitter individual.
He was going to be a doctor, and even wanted to be involved in the mission field. He can't do either.
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I've gone and done it now! I'm on Facebook!!!
Comparing the "prophet" that sent out the e-mail to Chester Wright is like comparing pirhanas to dolphins.
Nobody compared CW with this guy. It was said that such a message would be received if it came from within the org and I was pointing out that if someone from the org said he would still probably not be received
Nobody compared CW with this guy. It was said that such a message would be received if it came from within the org and I was pointing out that if someone from the org said he would still probably not be received
AMEN. That was the road I was wanting to use this thread to consider.
If its a stranger, that's no good.
If its in a setting where spouses and children are, that's no good.
If there is anything at fault with the messenger, that's no good.
If the messenger is young, that's no good.
So again I throw out this question;
Does God manifest his gifting for rebuke or correction using a "large spectrum" (the ol' shotgun approach!) message since the veil has been rent?
He has access to each heart of his children by his Spirit. Does he still just spray "audible pesticide" and trust that the recipients will either survive or succumb?
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Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath [James 1:19]
Nobody compared CW with this guy. It was said that such a message would be received if it came from within the org and I was pointing out that if someone from the org said he would still probably not be received
AMEN. That was the road I was wanting to use this thread to consider.
If its a stranger, that's no good.
If its in a setting where spouses and children are, that's no good.
If there is anything at fault with the messenger, that's no good.
If the messenger is young, that's no good.
So again I throw out this question;
Does God manifest his gifting for rebuke or correction using a "large spectrum" (the ol' shotgun approach!) message since the veil has been rent?
He has access to each heart of his children by his Spirit. Does he still just spray "audible pesticide" and trust that the recipients will either survive or succumb?
I believe that if such a message came from someone else in the org, even someone big, he would probably be marginalized somehow
I received this e-mail from a person named Russell and thought I would share it with you. It seems that Russell has some issues with us in the UPC ministry. I can't say I completely disagree with him, some things are spot on, but things like this are never received well.
What do you think? Is Russell a prophet? Should his warning be heeded?
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The word of the Lord to the Laodicean leadership of the United Pentecostal Church International:
The stench of your sin has arose into the nostrils of Jesus, our Great God and Savior. You who have masqueraded as shepherds, but really are ravening wolves that prey upon the flock of God for your own profit, are called into account.
Woe unto you who have traded Christ's command of self-crucifixion for Satan's whisper of self-indulgence. You are guilty of the sin of Eve and have eaten the forbidden fruit!
Woe unto you who have heeded the Babylon song to lie in the harlot's lap of politics to gain her luxuries of position and recognition of man. You are guilty of the sin of Sampson! Your hair, your strength is shorn, and you are now blind.
Woe unto you who have chosen to govern God's people through board and business meetings, committees, and financial accounting. You have disregarded the heavenly authority of God's Word and a people who pray. You are guilty of the sin of the merchants! You have made the house of God a den of thieves.
Woe unto you who have tolerated that Jezebel to rule the house and church, instead of commanding her to silence. You are guilty of the sin of cowardice, Ahab! Those women, even your wives, have become fat cows of Bashan who refuse to wash the feet of the saints. Rather, they lounge on couches of ease and demand more, more! Though she be called "First Lady", in judgement, she shall be last.
Woe unto you who refuse to "humble" yourself to acknowledge the example of Christ to drink wine and grow your beard. Your self-righteousness is revealed by your refusal to remove the haughtiness of your fine suits, fancy shoes, ties and well-set hair to show the world a humble Christ. You are guilty of the sin of the Pharisees! You have strained out a meaningless gnat, but have swallowed the camel of the pride of life. Your bare face is a sign of your shame!
Woe unto you who call yourselves ministers but treat those you are supposed to serve as slaves. You have lorded your authority over the saints and are guilty of the sin of the Gentiles!
Woe unto you who have amassed fine houses, lands, fine clothes, fine transportation, investments... all earthly wealth beyond the bread of today that God has provided. You live above those you are to serve! You, who are to be an example of selling everything to meet the needs of your poor brothers and sisters, are now guilty of the sin of Judas! You have traded the truth for silver, therefore, you cannot say with authority "...in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk". You no longer understand that you must first be able to confess, "silver and gold have I none...".
Woe unto you who exact a tithe of my people. Whom I have set free to give cheerfully, you have enslaved to the old law, anew. You hypocrites! The old law that you wield shall be the same law by which you shall be judged. You are guilty of the sin of Gehazi! Taking advantage of the joyous souls who have met the God of Israel, you have greedily ran after to demand payment, when Christ has cleansed for free.
Woe unto you who proclaim yourselves preachers of righteousness, yet, aid the people in the practices of Baal, of the calves. Instead of separating the people from the love of wealth and decoration, you say, "With this ring, I thee wed", and pridefully join the hand of the bride of Christ to the customs of the gods of idols. You are guilty of the sin of Aaron!
Woe unto you who refuse to boldly declare righteousness in the midst of the wickedness around you. For your silence, you are guilty of the sin of Eli!
Woe unto you who continue to carry the glory of God the wrong way - stubbornly ignoring the cry of apostle and prophet by your smug elections. You mock the simplicity of the gospel being carried by men called and annointed by God. Placing the gospel on the mechanized ox-cart of man's political organization has caused a shaking. You are now guilty of the sin of Uzzah! Stretching forth your hand, you have mishandled the glory of God. You now call the divine, heavenly, spirit conceived flesh of Jesus earthly, human.
Woe unto you who deceive the people with lies and earthly doctrines of men concerning the flesh and blood of our Savior. Loving the profit of your positions more than truth, you have chosen to proclaim a Christ that is earthly, corruptible, sinful in nature, and mortal like unto you. You are guilty of the sin of Baalam and deny the very Lord who bought you!
Woe unto you who continue to lead the grumbling in Israel concerning the flesh, the bread, the Word from heaven. As in the days of the wilderness wander, you are guilty of Israel's great sin! Serpents are among you biting with venom of sickness and debauchery. Confess that the Son of Man came from heaven, or you will die in your sins.
A great divide of separation has come among God's people in the earth, even the UPCI. Separate yourselves from the rebellious sons of Korah, those who mock God's annointed and disdain God's Word, or be swallowed up by their wickedness. He that has an ear to hear, let him hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches.
I, Russell Heibner, have written this to you in obedience to Jesus Christ - Is. 58:1-2.
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