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Old 05-07-2009, 01:50 PM
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations

No jealousy here - of ministers male or female.

Speaking of women preachers and babies.... Of the woman men of God I have observed, it is highly questionable whether some of them would have the ability to bear children.

I really did not need to go there... perhaps I should move this to the nursing thread.

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No jealousy here - of ministers male or female.

Speaking of women preachers and babies.... Of the woman men of God I have observed, it is highly questionable whether some of them would have the ability to bear children.

I really did not need to go there... perhaps I should move this to the nursing thread.

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Old 05-07-2009, 03:11 PM
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations

See Exodus 4:24-28.

While it did not actually happen, Moses was about to be replace by God's second choice, Aaron. If it had not been for the timely intervention of Zipporah, there would have been no story of Moses to retell throughout the ages. It would have been the story of Aaron the Law Giver.

Also note, Zipporah took authority over Moses as husband and head of the family and performed a "man's only responsibility".

Our God just does not fit into a box.

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Another "second choice" was the establishment of the Levitical priesthood.
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See Exodus 4:24-28.

While it did not actually happen, Moses was about to be replace by God's second choice, Aaron. If it had not been for the timely intervention of Zipporah, there would have been no story of Moses to retell throughout the ages. It would have been the story of Aaron the Law Giver.

Also note, Zipporah took authority over Moses as husband and head of the family and performed a "man's only responsibility".

Our God just does not fit into a box.

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Another "second choice" was the establishment of the Levitical priesthood.
The statement was made that God will choose a woman when a man won't step up to the call. Not only does this make God sound like He's choosing second-class over first-class, but it makes Him not all-powerful. I don't believe Moses was about to be replaced. God is all-knowing as well, and He knew that Moses would do what He called him to do, even though He had to use some persuasion to get the job done, as He did many times in scripture.

But I still don't see a single instance where God called someone to do a work, and when they refused to 'step-up', He chose someone else....or even a woman to do the job instead.

However, I do find in scripture where God used both men and women to do His calling, and when those folks didn't 'step-up', He did some persuasive moves to help their positive decisions along...LOL! But nowhere do we find Him giving up and settling someone else, not even for what some might make it sound as a lesser person to do the job.

However, I'm interested in knowing who didn't do their job that warranted God setting up the priesthood to do it for them. Forgive me, as I'm tired and not putting words together right, but I'm truly interested in how that got started.
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However, I'm interested in knowing who didn't do their job that warranted God setting up the priesthood to do it for them. Forgive me, as I'm tired and not putting words together right, but I'm truly interested in how that got started.
My pleasure, sis.

God’s original intent was to have the first born male of each family to be a priest unto Him. However, because of some problems with a cow at Mt. Sinai (Exodus 32 ), God revoked that plan and substituted the one tribe that rallied to Him, the Levites - and He made them a tribe of priests unto Himself.

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Exodus 13:2 Sanctify unto me all the first-born, whatsoever openeth the womb among the children of Israel, both of man and of beast: it is mine.

Numbers 3:12-13 And I, behold, I have taken the Levites from among the children of Israel instead of all the first-born that openeth the womb among the children of Israel; and the Levites shall be mine: for all the first-born are mine; on the day that I smote all the first-born in the land of Egypt I hallowed unto me all the first-born in Israel, both man and beast; mine they shall be: I am Jehovah.

Numbers 8:18 And I have taken the Levites instead of all the first-born among the children of Israel.
Even so, the first born remained God’s, and he had to be redeemed from the service of God, even though he had been rejected from service. Later, the redemption requirement (sacrifice at the Temple) would even include the very son of God! See Luke 2:21-24
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Numbers 18:15 Everything that openeth the womb, of all flesh which they offer unto Jehovah, both of man and beast shall be thine: nevertheless the first-born of man shalt thou surely redeem, and the firstling of unclean beasts shalt thou redeem.
An additional interesting insight into the wilderness experience includes the story about how Moses got God to change His mind concerning the future of His chosen people, and why today the Jews call Abraham ”the father of their nation”, rather than Moses. Everyone really should take some time and read through the Torah, Psalms and the prophets with Jesus on their mind.

Sister, I hope you found this small offering useful.
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My pleasure, sis.

God’s original intent was to have the first born male of each family to be a priest unto Him. However, because of some problems with a cow at Mt. Sinai (Exodus 32 ), God revoked that plan and substituted the one tribe that rallied to Him, the Levites - and He made them a tribe of priests unto Himself.



Even so, the first born remained God’s, and he had to be redeemed from the service of God, even though he had been rejected from service. Later, the redemption requirement (sacrifice at the Temple) would even include the very son of God! See Luke 2:21-24


An additional interesting insight into the wilderness experience includes the story about how Moses got God to change His mind concerning the future of His chosen people, and why today the Jews call Abraham ”the father of their nation”, rather than Moses. Everyone really should take some time and read through the Torah, Psalms and the prophets with Jesus on their mind.

Sister, I hope you found this small offering useful.
Oh, thanks so much, really! I found it quite interesting, having never heard that before. I intent to read more about that and the reasoning behind that decision. I have always wondered why God changed His mind so much in the OT and not anywhere else. But that's another thread..LOL!

Again, thanks a bunch, my friend.
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My pleasure, sis.

God’s original intent was to have the first born male of each family to be a priest unto Him. However, because of some problems with a cow at Mt. Sinai (Exodus 32 ), God revoked that plan and substituted the one tribe that rallied to Him, the Levites - and He made them a tribe of priests unto Himself.



Even so, the first born remained God’s, and he had to be redeemed from the service of God, even though he had been rejected from service. Later, the redemption requirement (sacrifice at the Temple) would even include the very son of God! See Luke 2:21-24


An additional interesting insight into the wilderness experience includes the story about how Moses got God to change His mind concerning the future of His chosen people, and why today the Jews call Abraham ”the father of their nation”, rather than Moses. Everyone really should take some time and read through the Torah, Psalms and the prophets with Jesus on their mind.

Sister, I hope you found this small offering useful.



That is very interesting...I have never heard it like that before. Thank you.
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That is very interesting...I have never heard it like that before. Thank you.
You are most welcome - and was of some vakue.
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