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Old 05-02-2012, 09:07 PM
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So...consider when our body dies, we cannot see our spirit (no mass) but somehow (in our pov) who we were physically is gone, but we really still do exist although others cannot see us? Did our spirit leave at the speed of light? Is there time or did time stop? Would this be why with God, one day for Him is as a thousand years for us?
Hmm...the physicists won't tell me; they won't even let me ask! (but I did catch one going "Om..." when he thought I wasn't looking...)
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I think I will pass on that electron re-configurator for now. Not ready to do any experiments that I may not be able to return from.
Ah, ya, experiments; we'll go with that. Good, actually, because I built five of them tod...never mind.

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Old 05-02-2012, 09:25 PM
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Hmm...the physicists won't tell me; they won't even let me ask! (but I did catch one going "Om..." when he thought I wasn't looking...)
Ha. They don't know...that's why they won't tell ya.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:00 PM
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Ha. They don't know...that's why they won't tell ya.
Ha, they know, just like you do; they just can't say that, and still be physicists with a job. We'll find a way to parallel this with your Pastor (apparently, hmm), who is also surely a great, accomplished guy, prolly, with similar conflicts of interest.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:01 PM
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And, all the physics stuff is regurgitated from
The Dancing Wu Li Masters, Zukav
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:24 PM
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Don't have a "pastor" in regards to the ordinary congregational church setting.

My spiritual head is my husband and we belong to the General Assembly of the Firstborn.
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:09 PM
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Don't have a "pastor" in regards to the ordinary congregational church setting.

My spiritual head is my husband and we belong to the General Assembly of the Firstborn.
Ah, well, I woke back up to say that certainly not all Pastors have this conflict of interest, at least the unaffiliated ones. With an affiliated Pastor, it is undeniably, unavoidably built in, whether manifest or not; but this is no secret.
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Old 05-03-2012, 09:19 AM
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Ah, well, I woke back up to say that certainly not all Pastors have this conflict of interest, at least the unaffiliated ones. With an affiliated Pastor, it is undeniably, unavoidably built in, whether manifest or not; but this is no secret.
Ok, dang, we'll get to the end of Bell's theorem here in a sec, but I guess this should be clarified, by request. Since it's clear to me, if you notice I did this part wrong, feel free:

It is really tough to become a Pastor; you have just graduated, you're in debt, prolly, you love God, and your offers are, say, $40k + parsonage in a 1500-2500 member church, with perks (the Affiliated church), or please we really need a Pastor, we have 250 members now, our church has gotten too big for us because the Spirit is moving here, + a nice single-wide trailer and we promise to feed you good (unaffiliated).

Now, I've never been a Pastor, and I just made all that up.
What would you do?
The one little catch is, you have to abide by
the "Affiliated" church's doctrine? A doctrine you currently agree
with anyway? For most guys, it's a no brainer. You can retire to that little
Spirit-filled church...

And then you get a revelation about something, say.
The only prob is, it's five years later, and your loans
are maybe only half paid off because, well, just because;
you got a wife, had daughters, bought cars, etc., and this
revelation of yours is clear as the day, man, you just know.
Only thing is, it goes against your Affiliated Doctrine.

Now, your choices are deny the Holy Spirit,
or leave that church. The answer would appear self-evident,
but that is just not really fair, when you read into that
vastly abbreviated story the relationships, yours and your fam's,
the habits you have all settled into, etc.

So you try to, sorry, guys, stay on a fence.
You don't want to be on a fence, prolly,
but there you are.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:39 AM
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Wow! Talk about deep waters!
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Wow! Talk about deep waters!
Well, I guess I was using uncommon terms or something?
And yikes, this seems like "shallow water" to me.
I guess I presented the situation close enough?
Except prolly you really owe triple that amount now, lol...
So we can move on?

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Well, I guess I was using uncommon terms or something?
And yikes, this seems like "shallow water" to me.
I guess I presented the situation close enough?
Except prolly you really owe triple that amount now, lol...
So we can move on?
One comment before you do move on...a person can still drown in 2 inches of water. All that is required is for your nose to be submerged.
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