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Old 01-30-2008, 03:25 AM
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"The Good News" defined?

Gospel. The word means "Good news"...and so it goes that the gospel, according to some, is defined as the "Death, burial and Resurrection" of Jesus Christ.

Without a doubt in at least the gospels Paul defines this. However since Jesus came preaching the good news can anyone show where in the gospels from the moment he started preaching that his message was the Death, Burial and Resurrection of himself? He barely touched on his death only near the end of his ministry and it was so obscure a point and so little taught on by Jesus that they still did not really understand it all.

Additionally, it is mentioned that one must OBEY the gospel. To obey is to DO something you are told to do...or to NOT do what you are told NOT to do. So there must also be some aspect of a command in the gospel to obey.

Yes Paul taught that....but if we stopped there would we really get the whole picture of what "The good news" is?
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Re: "The Good News" defined?

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Gospel. The word means "Good news"...and so it goes that the gospel, according to some, is defined as the "Death, burial and Resurrection" of Jesus Christ.

Without a doubt in at least the gospels Paul defines this. However since Jesus came preaching the good news can anyone show where in the gospels from the moment he started preaching that his message was the Death, Burial and Resurrection of himself? He barely touched on his death only near the end of his ministry and it was so obscure a point and so little taught on by Jesus that they still did not really understand it all.

Additionally, it is mentioned that one must OBEY the gospel. To obey is to DO something you are told to do...or to NOT do what you are told NOT to do. So there must also be some aspect of a command in the gospel to obey.

Yes Paul taught that....but if we stopped there would we really get the whole picture of what "The good news" is?
Jesus was and is the good news. The part and parcel.
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Re: "The Good News" defined?

thanks Prax for the stirring that this kind of topic can work in each of us.

My view (for many years now) is that the Gospel is that a way that has been made in which fallen man is reconciled back into fellowship with God. A new birth is available from which old things pass away and a newness grows up in completeness by reason of God making his dwelling place within the hearts of the redeemed.

The corporate expression of this dwelling place is God's Christ, the body he indwells (hence, anointing). Each of us having access and membership in this handiwork is our response to the good news that such a communion is available.

Restoration (continual renewal as we journey toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ) is available. Our instruction to OBEY, is acted upon by the heart of each believer who must determine what counsel they will follow; the leading that is set before us by the Spirit's daily prompting, or the carnal mind.

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thanks Prax for the stirring that this kind of topic can work in each of us.

My view (for many years now) is that the Gospel is that a way that has been made in which fallen man is reconciled back into fellowship with God. A new birth is available from which old things pass away and a newness grows up in completeness by reason of God making his dwelling place within the hearts of the redeemed.

The corporate expression of this dwelling place is God's Christ, the body he indwells (hence, anointing). Each of us having access and membership in this handiwork is our response to the good news that such a communion is available.

Restoration (continual renewal as we journey toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ) is available. Our instruction to OBEY, is acted upon by the heart of each believer who must determine what counsel they will follow; the leading that is set before us by the Spirit's daily prompting, or the carnal mind.

just some thoughts...
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  2. The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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Re: "The Good News" defined?

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Gospel. The word means "Good news"...and so it goes that the gospel, according to some, is defined as the "Death, burial and Resurrection" of Jesus Christ.

Without a doubt in at least the gospels Paul defines this. However since Jesus came preaching the good news can anyone show where in the gospels from the moment he started preaching that his message was the Death, Burial and Resurrection of himself? He barely touched on his death only near the end of his ministry and it was so obscure a point and so little taught on by Jesus that they still did not really understand it all.

Additionally, it is mentioned that one must OBEY the gospel. To obey is to DO something you are told to do...or to NOT do what you are told NOT to do. So there must also be some aspect of a command in the gospel to obey.

Yes Paul taught that....but if we stopped there would we really get the whole picture of what "The good news" is?
Well prax...I.m thinkin that the gospel is so much more than the death/burial/resurection.

The good news encompasses everything that is good about a messiah coming.

It's good news that healing is available
It's good news that Jesus came to fulfill the law
It's good news that Jesus baptized the whole earth with his spirit , making himself available to all who believe.
It's good news that I can go directly to Christ and have access to the throne room of God.

Prax...it's all good !!!

I think sometimes we get ourselves all worked up over definitions.

What is an Apostolic?

What is holiness?

What is the Father in relation to the son.?

What is the correct "formula" in baptism, in Jesus name or in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ or in the name of Jesus Christ?

Ad nauseum....the list of hair splitting questions can go on for ever and in fact they have been going on for ever......

....all the while while we go on missing our fulfullment of the gospel in us and that is that we share ourselves with the world we live in daily.

Jus tmy thoughts.....if you have other thoughts...thats all right .
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