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Evaluate and critique my churches belief statement
Its a modified version of what Global Network, Jabo Green, and Christ Church Nashville have. The godhead one was where i made a serious edit. I'm a one stepper apostolic (neo-PCI tradition if you were to label it). Anyone have any constructive ideas?
What We Believe
… in one God, revealed as Father in the creation of humanity, Son in the incarnation of Jesus and the indwelling Holy Spirit that empowers us.
… that our Lord Jesus Christ was begotten, not created, very God of very God, truly God, truly Man. He was born of the Virgin Mary, lived a sinless life, died a vicarious and atoning death for the sins of the world, was resurrected bodily for our justification, and now reigns in glory until all things be put under His feet.
… in the inspiration of the Holy Scriptures, given by the Holy Spirit, as He moved upon holy men of old. Furthermore, … that the church has no authority to establish doctrine or practice contrary to these same Scriptures, which were subsequently accepted as canon by the early Christian Church.
… that man was made in the image of God and is the crown of creation. He is now, by reason of his fallen nature, spiritually depraved and alienated from His Creator. Apart from God’s grace he has no ability to attain to his high calling.
… that justification is by grace through faith in our Lord’s sacrifice on Calvary.
… that all of God’s people are to be buried with Christ in the waters of baptism, subsequent to conversion. While we freely embrace those of contrary opinion, we feel that this rite is scripturally administered “in the name of the Lord Jesus.”
… that the Holy Spirit indwells all believers, conforming them to the image of Jesus Christ.
… that the baptism in the Holy Spirit is an enduement of powers subsequent to conversion, given by God to anoint the believer for sanctification and evangelism. It is our understanding that the supernatural charisms of the Holy Spirit are active within the body of Christ until the coming of the Lord. Furthermore, … the development of these charismatic gifts ought to be encouraged under the guidance of local church authorities.
… in the Holy Christian Church, imperfectly represented on Earth by the various Christian institutions. Her unity is spiritual, her culture diverse and transitional, her mission eternal.
… that the calling of Apostle, Prophet, Evangelist, Pastor and Teacher are functional within the Body of Christ until the Lord’s return. Furthermore, these ministries are gifts to the church for the purpose of equipping the saints for the work of ministry, that the Body of Christ be edified.
… the identity of the Body of Christ on the Earth is primarily perceived through the local church. While encouraging the voluntary association of local churches, and recognizing the need of consensus on matters of fundamental doctrine and conduct, we strongly confess the local church to be sovereign and autonomous.
… in the right of local churches and ministries to form temporal institutions to assist them in carrying out the work of God. At the same time, we reject sectarianism and divisiveness as great evils.
… in the priesthood of the believer. That is to say all people born of God have equal status before, and direct access to their Lord.
… in the spiritual unity of all who are born of God. We confess even those with whom we disagree, those who do not confess us, and others whom we exclude because of our unwillful ignorance.
… that those who are called by the name of Christ should depart from iniquity. Understanding that salvation from the penalty of sin only begins the process of redemption, we acknowledge that one work of the Holy Spirit is to create in us the character of Christ.
… in the literal second coming of our Lord, the resurrection of the regenerate to eternal life and the unregenerate to eternal damnation, and the ultimate victory of the eternal Kingdom of God
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09-30-2009, 08:11 PM
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Re: Evaluate and critique my churches belief state
Ours is very similar, but we added a clause about marriage being for one man and one woman - just to prevent problems. Also, we added in a thing about tongues being the initial evidence of the Holy Ghost.
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09-30-2009, 08:19 PM
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Re: Evaluate and critique my churches belief state
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Originally Posted by Sherri
Ours is very similar, but we added a clause about marriage being for one man and one woman - just to prevent problems. Also, we added in a thing about tongues being the initial evidence of the Holy Ghost.
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With this and non-Trinitarian statement, how is it that you cannot (or do not) claim to be Oneness Pentecostal?
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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09-30-2009, 10:23 PM
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Re: Evaluate and critique my churches belief state
evaluate and critique it?
Sounds good to me.
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10-01-2009, 05:46 AM
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Re: Evaluate and critique my churches belief state
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Originally Posted by Sherri
Ours is very similar, but we added a clause about marriage being for one man and one woman - just to prevent problems. Also, we added in a thing about tongues being the initial evidence of the Holy Ghost.
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both are good ideas. thanks
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10-01-2009, 06:36 AM
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Re: Evaluate and critique my churches belief state
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With this and non-Trinitarian statement, how is it that you cannot (or do not) claim to be Oneness Pentecostal?
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I guess I just think labels are divisive and we removed ours years ago. I definitely consider myself Pentecostal at heart, although we don't call our church that. The worship is very Spirit filled and active - just no really crazy stuff happening (usually).
I would lean more toward oneness theology, but there are some things about the godhead that I just cannot explain or understand. We have people in our church who are died in the wool oneness and others who would explain the godhead from a totally trinitarian viewpoint. We all love each other, but we don't all agree on that. They all know how Eddie teaches and baptizes.
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10-03-2009, 09:32 PM
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Re: Evaluate and critique my churches belief state
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Originally Posted by Apocrypha
Its a modified version of what Global Network, Jabo Green, and Christ Church Nashville have. The godhead one was where i made a serious edit. I'm a one stepper apostolic (neo-PCI tradition if you were to label it). Anyone have any constructive ideas?
What We Believe
in one God, revealed as Father in the creation of humanity, Son in the incarnation of Jesus and the indwelling Holy Spirit that empowers us.
that our Lord Jesus Christ was begotten, not created, very God of very God, truly God, truly Man. He was born of the Virgin Mary, lived a sinless life, died a vicarious and atoning death for the sins of the world, was resurrected bodily for our justification, and now reigns in glory until all things be put under His feet.
in the inspiration of the Holy Scriptures, given by the Holy Spirit, as He moved upon holy men of old. Furthermore,
that the church has no authority to establish doctrine or practice contrary to these same Scriptures, which were subsequently accepted as canon by the early Christian Church.
that man was made in the image of God and is the crown of creation. He is now, by reason of his fallen nature, spiritually depraved and alienated from His Creator. Apart from Gods grace he has no ability to attain to his high calling.
that justification is by grace through faith in our Lords sacrifice on Calvary.
that all of Gods people are to be buried with Christ in the waters of baptism, subsequent to conversion. While we freely embrace those of contrary opinion, we feel that this rite is scripturally administered in the name of the Lord Jesus.
that the Holy Spirit indwells all believers, conforming them to the image of Jesus Christ.
that the baptism in the Holy Spirit is an enduement of powers subsequent to conversion, given by God to anoint the believer for sanctification and evangelism. It is our understanding that the supernatural charisms of the Holy Spirit are active within the body of Christ until the coming of the Lord. Furthermore,
the development of these charismatic gifts ought to be encouraged under the guidance of local church authorities.
in the Holy Christian Church, imperfectly represented on Earth by the various Christian institutions. Her unity is spiritual, her culture diverse and transitional, her mission eternal.
that the calling of Apostle, Prophet, Evangelist, Pastor and Teacher are functional within the Body of Christ until the Lords return. Furthermore, these ministries are gifts to the church for the purpose of equipping the saints for the work of ministry, that the Body of Christ be edified.
the identity of the Body of Christ on the Earth is primarily perceived through the local church. While encouraging the voluntary association of local churches, and recognizing the need of consensus on matters of fundamental doctrine and conduct, we strongly confess the local church to be sovereign and autonomous.
in the right of local churches and ministries to form temporal institutions to assist them in carrying out the work of God. At the same time, we reject sectarianism and divisiveness as great evils.
in the priesthood of the believer. That is to say all people born of God have equal status before, and direct access to their Lord.
in the spiritual unity of all who are born of God. We confess even those with whom we disagree, those who do not confess us, and others whom we exclude because of our unwillful ignorance.
that those who are called by the name of Christ should depart from iniquity. Understanding that salvation from the penalty of sin only begins the process of redemption, we acknowledge that one work of the Holy Spirit is to create in us the character of Christ.
in the literal second coming of our Lord, the resurrection of the regenerate to eternal life and the unregenerate to eternal damnation, and the ultimate victory of the eternal Kingdom of God
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translation:
We don't really have a firm belief in anything..
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10-03-2009, 09:42 PM
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Re: Evaluate and critique my churches belief state
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Originally Posted by toof
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We don't really have a firm belief in anything..
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10-03-2009, 09:45 PM
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Re: Evaluate and critique my churches belief state
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10-03-2009, 09:49 PM
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Re: Evaluate and critique my churches belief state
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Originally Posted by toof
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We don't really have a firm belief in anything..
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In other words, why do you say this? Give examples or something to explain where you come up with the statement you made.
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