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01-18-2011, 03:08 PM
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Agree or disagree in total?? Why?
I just found this in a what we believe statement of a very popular church...do you agree or disagree? In total, you can't just agree with one part and not the other...my post, I make the rules. 
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Jesus Christ is God and is the Son of God. He is the living Word of God, and through Him all things were created. Born to the Virgin Mary and of the Holy Spirit, Jesus left heaven and came to earth as a man to redeem mankind. He is completely God and completely man.
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01-18-2011, 03:12 PM
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Re: Agree or disagree in total?? Why?
I am ok with it, though the wording is a bit interesting (Holy Spirit rather than heavenly Father)
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01-18-2011, 03:16 PM
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Re: Agree or disagree in total?? Why?
How about now?
God the Father is the creator and sustainer of everything. He composed the universe-in all of its beauty and glory-and while He was making this universe, He made man in His own image so that He could have fellowship with him. After man fell, God the Father graciously called man back into fellowship with Him through Christ.
Jesus Christ is God and is the Son of God. He is the living Word of God, and through Him all things were created. Born to the Virgin Mary and of the Holy Spirit, Jesus left heaven and came to earth as a man to redeem mankind. He is completely God and completely man.
The Holy Spirit is God, and He is the Giver of life. The Spirit was active during the Old Testament, often speaking and working through the Jewish prophets. But it was on the day of Pentecost that He was given to the Church in fullness. The Holy Spirit works in our lives to transform us into the image of Jesus. He also empowers us to serve Jesus, and to be witnesses to His name. He is fully released in our lives by the baptism of the Holy Spirit, which happens after salvation. The baptism of the Holy Spirit is shown both inwardly and outwardly by many different ways.
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01-18-2011, 04:01 PM
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Re: Agree or disagree in total?? Why?
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I just found this in a what we believe statement of a very popular church...do you agree or disagree? In total, you can't just agree with one part and not the other...my post, I make the rules.
The Son
Jesus Christ is God and is the Son of God. He is the living Word of God, and through Him all things were created. Born to the Virgin Mary and of the Holy Spirit, Jesus left heaven and came to earth as a man to redeem mankind. He is completely God and completely man. |
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01-18-2011, 04:13 PM
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Re: Agree or disagree in total?? Why?
Someone called a plumber?
The Godhead ninjas punch in after 5 PST
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01-18-2011, 04:13 PM
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Re: Agree or disagree in total?? Why?
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Originally Posted by Carpenter
I just found this in a what we believe statement of a very popular church...do you agree or disagree? In total, you can't just agree with one part and not the other...my post, I make the rules.
The Son
Jesus Christ is God and is the Son of God. He is the living Word of God, and through Him all things were created. Born to the Virgin Mary and of the Holy Spirit, Jesus left heaven and came to earth as a man to redeem mankind. He is completely God and completely man. |
I have a problem with this portion:
"Born to the Virgin Mary and of the Holy Spirit, Jesus left heaven and came to earth as a man...."
I believe God left heaven and came to earth as the man, Jesus; the man, Jesus, didn't exist until he was born to Mary.
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01-18-2011, 04:30 PM
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Re: Agree or disagree in total?? Why?
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I have a problem with this portion:
"Born to the Virgin Mary and of the Holy Spirit, Jesus left heaven and came to earth as a man...."
I believe God left heaven and came to earth as the man, Jesus; the man, Jesus, didn't exist until he was born to Mary.
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I just went out and did a quick survey of 1,000 meth addicts, prostitutes, homeless folks, prison inmates, the hungry, the thirsty, and the cold.
None of them cared.
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01-18-2011, 04:37 PM
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Re: Agree or disagree in total?? Why?
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I just went out and did a quick survey of 1,000 meth addicts, prostitutes, homeless folks, prison inmates, the hungry, the thirsty, and the cold.
None of them cared.
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They will care when they wonder who to direct their prayers to. Does equal time have to be given to the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit? Or can they simply pray to God in Jesus' name?
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01-18-2011, 04:43 PM
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Re: Agree or disagree in total?? Why?
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They will care when they wonder who to direct their prayers to. Does equal time have to be given to the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit? Or can they simply pray to God in Jesus' name?
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They could just ask Jesus (God) in Jesus' name.
John 14:14 "If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it. (NASB)
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01-18-2011, 04:47 PM
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Re: Agree or disagree in total?? Why?
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I just went out and did a quick survey of 1,000 meth addicts, prostitutes, homeless folks, prison inmates, the hungry, the thirsty, and the cold.
None of them cared.
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What I don't understand is the fine-tooth combing!
So many reject Eternal Sonship so much they don't stop to listen to what is said.
If the sentence read:
Born to the Virgin Mary and of the Holy Spirit, HE left heaven and came to earth as a man....
They wouldn't and couldn't quarrel. Because of a pronoun?
You can't say Jesus is the Son of God and God.
Then add God is eternal
And not conclude that some aspect of Jesus is not eternal.
It's like saying my mom, sister Alicea, didn't exist before marrying my Dad.
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