4given@Repentance If You're Still Goin 2 Hell?

[deacon blues]

How can the scriptures say we are forgiven of our sins at repentance if a repentant sinner is still going to hell? If a repentant sinner is still lost, then they aren't forgiven at repentance. If so, what's the point of repentance?

[Pressing-On]

That's a great question. When I look at the definition of "repent", it is saying, "to think differently, morally to feel compunction/having an awareness of guilt and to reconsider".

So, my question would be - isn't that the beginning of changing your thought pattern in order to become saved? Is the definition specially saying that you are forgiven at that point or is it saying you have become aware of your guilt in order to become saved?

I ask that because Acts 2:38 says, "...Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins..."

I just appears that repentance gives us an awareness in order to obey.

[Austin]

Wow!! this thing doesn't stop. Great is the mystery of salvation that no one can rightly explain it! Austin1;4

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Austin

Wow!! this thing doesn't stop. Great is the mystery of salvation that no one can rightly explain it! Austin1;4

Have lots I got into when studying this subject. I have to get that in order to even make sense of it. LOL!

Interesting how Acts 5:31 says that He gives repentance and forgiveness of sins. And, Acts 26:20 says that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance. Lots involved in repentance it seems.

[Austin]

You know what! if the Holy Ghost did not first intervene into the decision center of peoples minds most of them would not have anythng to repent of.
People think faith is believing something for the fact of the matter and in past tense. When in reality faith is given by God in the first place and it is the revelation of the fact. That is why it can't be doubted and that is also why it will work, Because you have the security, or confidence of the fact before you have the substance that you desired.

[deacon blues]

"If we confess our sins God is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." I John 1:9

[RandyWayne]

Don't you know the true salvation occurs when you finally look the part and write that first tithe check?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Austin

Wow!! this thing doesn't stop. Great is the mystery of salvation that no one can rightly explain it! Austin1;4

Jesus saves.


Isaiah 53:11; Hosea 14:2; Matthew 20:28; Acts 13:39; Romans 3:22-24, Romans 4:24-25, Romans 5:1, Romans 5:9, Romans 5:18-19; 1 Corinthians 15:3; 2 Corinthians 5:21; Galatians 1:4, Galatians 3:13; 1 Timothy 2:6; Titus 2:14, Titus 3:5; Hebrews 1:3, Hebrews 2:17, Hebrews 9:28; 1 Peter 2:24, 1 Peter 3:18; 1 John 2:2, 1 John 3:5; 1 John 4:10; Revelation 1:5.

Our hypothetical "repentant sinner" isn't "saved" "because he repented". He isn't in a "state of awareness awaiting further cleansing in baptism which will ultimately save him."

Our hypothetical "repentant sinner" is "saved" only because the Savior has saved him. That is the purpose of a Savior; salvation.

[Sam]

Repentance is not enough according to some teaching.

Repentance brings forgiveness but the person is still filthy in his sins until they are washed away or remitted by water baptism.

If "born of water" means water baptism like the Roman Catholic Church taught for years and some OP's teach now, then repentance is not enough because the person who has repented is not a child of God until after water and Spirit baptism.

That just happens to be the theology of some.

I personally believe a person is justified/saved/born again and on the way to Heaven the instant he/she asks Jesus Christ into his/her life. I also believe that failure to be baptized in water and failure to speak with tongues does not negate that salvation. But, that's just the opinion of a greasy grace, soft on the message, easy believism, one-stepper Bapticostal Charismatic.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

"If we confess our sins God is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." I John 1:9

Who was the epistle of 1 John written to?