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Old 05-20-2011, 11:36 AM
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"Those who bless you will be blessed..."

With all the talk of Obama and his views on Israel, people are thinking God cannot bless America if America pulls back from blessing Israel.

They get this from the scripture that shows God blessed Abraham with this promise:
Genesis 12:1-3 KJV Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: (2) And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: (3) And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Notice that Paul commented upon unbelieving Israel in contrast to the church, when it came to blessings and cursings:
Galatians 3:8-10 KJV And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. (9) So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. (10) For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Does this mean those Jews under law DO NOT QUALIFY FOR THE BLESSING THAT SAYS, "I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed"?

And what about these verses:
Galatians 4:21-31 KJV Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? (22) For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. (23) But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. (24) Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. (25) For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. (26) But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. (27) For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband. (28) Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. (29) But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. (30) Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. (31) So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
Heir of what? Heir of Abraham's blessings? Does this mean unbelieving Israel cannot be heir to the promise that God would bless those who bless them?

The son of the bondwoman stood for Israelites who did not believe in Christ. Paul likened them to Ishmael. The son of the freewoman stood for Christians whether they be Jews of Gentiles. Paul likened them to Isaac.

So, does this imply that the promise of God to bless those who bless Abraham's heirs, and curse those who curse Abraham's heirs, cannot apply to unbelieving Israelites?

When Paul said, "the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman", did he mean the inheritance of the blessings in Genesis 12 cannot be enjoyed by unbelieving Israel?
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