Ever Hear of the "Harbinger" thought about 9-11?

[mfblume]

A Messianic Jewish pastor named Jonathan Cahn presented a VERY interesting teaching about the HARBINGERS of 9-11. A Harbinger is a sign or omen of something to come, sometimes good sometimes bad.

He said that Isa 9:10 shows a DEFIANCE of Israel after God used Assyria to afflict them due to Israel's sins.

Instead of repenting, Israel looked at the warning destruction from God using Assyria and vowed these words to make themselves more resistant to any further destruction:

Isaiah 9:10 KJV The bricks are fallen down, but we will build with hewn stones: the sycomores are cut down, but we will change them into cedars.

And speaking of 9-11, look at the next verse:

Isaiah 9:11 KJV Therefore the LORD shall set up the adversaries of Rezin against him, and join his enemies together;

"Cedars" in Isa 9:10, in Hebrew, is ארז ('erez). A conifer tree.

A day after 9-11 occurred, they found that a beam shot out from the twin towards and struck and uprooted -- of all things -- A SYCOMORE tree! Just like the prophet referred to. And three years later they planted THE TREE OF HOPE in the direct place where the sycomore used to stand. And that tree was a conifer tree! EREZ!

And as bricks were less stable than STONE from a quarry, Israel vowed in defiance saying they would replace their bricks with HEWN STONE. A 20 ton stone was quarried and laid in ground zero "in the revolutionary spirit of defiance", as NY Governor Pataki said in his speech, not realizing Israel made the same defiant statement.

God had removed Israel's protection due to sin. Could it be that 9-11 was a warning judgment due to the removal of God's protection from America? And could it be that God allowed for the exact same judgments to occur in attempts to WARN America that occurred in Israel.

What was really astounding was that SENATE MAJORITY LEADER Tom Daschle made a speech on Sept 12, 2001, the day after 9-11, saying:

, “I know that there is only the smallest measure of inspiration that can be taken from this devastation. But I think there is a passage in the Bible from Isaiah that I think speaks to all of us at times like this.

The bricks have fallen down, but we will rebuild with dressed stones; fig trees have been felled but we will replace them with cedars.

The same words that Israel spoke in defiance WERE MISTOOK for words of encouragement. This man did not know that on that very day they would find a SYCOMORE tree uprooted at the corner of GROUND ZERO in front of St. Paul's chapel. He did not know that three years later they would plant an EREZ tree in its place, just like in Isa 9:10.

ON THE THIRD ANNIVERSARY OF 9-11, 2004, IN WASHINGTON, Vice presidential candidate, JOHN EDWARDS, gives a speech.

“Today on this day of remembrance and mourning we have the Lord’s words to get us through.

‘The bricks have fallen, but we will build with dressed stones; the sycamores have been cut down, but we will put cedars in their place.”

[AreYouReady?]

This is something that will go right over some people's heads Brother Blume.

Most of the politicians are quoting what someone else wrote for them to give in their speeches. Makes one wonder why they used these scriptures?

[The Matt]

The American people are trying their hardest to get God out of America. Does God let things happen as warnings? Yes. Was 9/11 a warning? I believe it was. I'm going to be reading into this, it makes sense to me, I'm just one who has to find out things for myself.

[AreYouReady?]

I don't think it is the american people as much as it is the politicians and people in high places.

[deafdriscoll]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

I don't think it is the american people as much as it is the politicians and people in high places.

I agree with this statement.

[The Matt]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

I don't think it is the american people as much as it is the politicians and people in high places.

You're right...I stand corrected.

[bbyrd009]

Wow, how freaky. If this goes over your head, read it again.

Originally Posted by The Matt

Was 9/11 a warning?

9/11 was perpetrated by your government, and over half the population, Iread recently, now believes this. Please at least watch one of the Loose Change videos on Youtube, and see that the author presents facts, mostly using network coverage, and leaves you to make up your mind. It's in like its 4th edition or something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUGLp5TAVpQ

Each movie has some different stuff in it. I would suggest that you just consider it fiction, and get some popcorn, and sit down and watch it, as it will be fascinating anyway, and decide for yourself.
Oh, and sorry about you not sleeping tonight.

[bbyrd009]

It was a warning alright; a warning that you are about to vote in your sleep. Please vote your conscience.

[The Matt]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Wow, how freaky. If this goes over your head, read it again.


9/11 was perpetrated by your government, and over half the population, Iread recently, now believes this. Please at least watch one of the Loose Change videos on Youtube, and see that the author presents facts, mostly using network coverage, and leaves you to make up your mind. It's in like its 4th edition or something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUGLp5TAVpQ

Each movie has some different stuff in it. I would suggest that you just consider it fiction, and get some popcorn, and sit down and watch it, as it will be fascinating anyway, and decide for yourself.
Oh, and sorry about you not sleeping tonight.

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No thanks.

[RevDWW]

Ecc 9:11 I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.

Luk 13:1 There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.
Luk 13:2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
Luk 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Luk 13:4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
Luk 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.


Two good scriptures to answer the question of why did those folks get killed on 9-11.....