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Old 05-29-2013, 10:36 PM
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My Lord and My God

John 20:28 My Lord and My God

The deity of Jesus Christ is declared in Scripture:

(1) In the intimations and explicit predictions of the Old Testament.

(a) The theophanies intimate the appearance of God in human form, and His ministry thus to man (Gen 16:7-13); (Gen 18:2-23) especially; (Gen 18:17); (Gen 32:28) with; (Hos 12:3-5); (Exo 3:2-14).

(b) The Messiah is expressly declared to be the Son of God (Psa 2:2-9) and God; (Psa 45:6); (Psa 45:7); (Heb 1:8); (Heb 1:9); (Psa 110:1); (Mat 22:44); (Act 2:34); (Heb 1:13); (Psa 110:4); (Heb 5:6); (Heb 6:20); (Heb 7:17-21); (Zac 6:13).

(c) His virgin birth was foretold as the means through which God could be "Immanuel," God with us; (Isa 7:13); (Isa 7:14); (Mat 1:22); (Mat 1:23).

(d) The Messiah is expressly invested with the divine names (Isa 9:6); (Isa 9:7).

(e) In a prophecy of His death He is called Jehovah's "fellow"; (Zac 13:7); (Mat 26:31).

(f) His eternal being is declared; (Mic 5:2); (Mat 2:6); (Joh 7:42).

(2) Christ Himself affirmed His deity.

(a) He applied to Himself the Jehovistic I AM. (The pronoun "he" is not in the Greek;

Compare (Joh 8:24); (Joh 8:56-58). The Jews correctly understood this to be our Lord's claim to full deity. (Joh 8:59).

See also, (Joh 10:33); (Joh 18:4-6) where, also, "he" is not in the original.)

(b) He claimed to be the Adonai of the Old Testament (Mat 22:42-45).

(See Scofield) - (Gen 15:2).

(c) He asserted His identity with the Father; (Mat 28:19); (Mar 14:62); (Joh 10:30); that the Jews so understood Him is shown by; (Joh 10:31); (Joh 10:32); (Joh 14:8); (Joh 14:9); (Joh 14:17); (Joh 14:5).

(d) He exercised the chief prerogative of God; (Mar 2:5-7); (Luk 7:48-50).

(e) He asserted omnipresence; (Mat 18:20); (Joh 3:13) omniscience, (Joh 11:11-14); when Jesus was fifty miles away; (Mar 11:6-8); omnipotence; (Mat 28:18); (Luk 7:14); (Joh 5:21-23); (Joh 6:19); mastery over nature, and creative power; (Luk 9:16); (Luk 9:17); (Joh 2:9); (Joh 10:28).

(f) He received and approved human worship, (Mat 14:33); (Mat 28:9); (Joh 20:28); (Joh 20:29).

(3) The New Testament writers ascribe divine titles to Christ: (Joh 1:1); (Joh 20:28); (Act 20:28); (Rom 1:4); (Rom 9:5); (Th2 1:12); (Ti1 3:16); (Tit 2:13); (Heb 1:8); (Jo1 5:20).

(4) The New Testament writers ascribe divine perfections and attributes to Christ (for example) (Mat 11:28); (Mat 18:20); (Mat 28:20); (Joh 1:2); (Joh 2:23-25); (Joh 3:13); (Joh 5:17); (Joh 21:17); (Heb 1:3); (Heb 1:11); (Heb 1:12); (Heb 13:8); (Rev 1:8); (Rev 1:17); (Rev 1:18); (Rev 2:23); (Rev 11:17); (Rev 22:13).

(5) The New Testament writers ascribe divine works to Christ (Joh 1:3); (Joh 1:10); (Col 1:16); (Col 1:17); (Heb 1:3).

(6) The New Testament writers teach that supreme worship should be paid to Christ (Act 7:59); (Act 7:60); (Co1 1:2); (Co2 13:14); (Phi 2:9); (Phi 2:10); (Heb 1:6); (Rev 1:5); (Rev 1:6); (Rev 5:12); (Rev 5:13).

(7) The holiness and resurrection of Christ prove His deity (Joh 8:46); (Rom 1:4).


The above is from the Scofield Bible Commentary online at
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/cmt/sco/joh020.htm
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Old 05-30-2013, 04:24 AM
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Amen! Sam.

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Re: My Lord and My God

Sam,
I was just thinking about Thomas' confession earlier today.
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Excellent Trinitarian doctrine you posted, Sam!
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Re: My Lord and My God

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Excellent Trinitarian doctrine you posted, Sam!
You caught that too

Its true Trins can present a good defence to the deity of Christ. But they don't go far enough to understand that God is "the Father". Then they go to far and say Jesus is one of THREE PERSONS who are each God.
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Re: My Lord and My God

He called Himself Adonai...

Mat 22:43 He said to them, "How is it then that David, in the Spirit, calls him Lord, saying,
Mat 22:44 "'The Lord said to my Lord, Sit at my right hand, until I put your enemies under your feet'?
Mat 22:45 If then David calls him Lord, how is he his son?"

Actually that's not true. The Hebrew word is adoni not the plural Adonai
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Re: My Lord and My God

Hasn't this been discussed before?
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Old 05-30-2013, 04:52 PM
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Hasn't this been discussed before?
It's been discussed, and discussed, and discussed, and.....
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Re: My Lord and My God

what I posted above is from the Scofield notes online

Almost the same thing appears on page 1243 of my Scofield Bible.

The deity of Jesus Christ could be taught from that outline by a person who considers himself oneness or or by a person who considers himself a trinitarian.
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Except for the Adonai part
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