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11-27-2013, 12:01 AM
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Turkeys Died To Set The White Man Free?
Now, before all you turkey eating, cider swallowing, football watching Thanksgivingites get upset, please consider this....
Isn't celebrating Thanksgiving in the U.S. like setting aside a day in Germany to celebrate the Holocaust? I know that no one (that I know of) on this forum is celebrating the genocide of the American Indian when they sit down with family and friends to engorge themselves with cranberries smothered in gluten. No, but isn't it something to ponder that after six decades of landing at Plymouth Rock, the Europeans had forever destroyed a culture that had inhabited the area for thousands of years prior to the arrival of the Mayflower? I mean, who was really thankful? It sure wasn't the Indians, because in 1620 the Europeans landed on Plymouth Rock, then 55 years later by 1675, the Puritans would almost decimate the entire Wampanoag tribe.
A tribe which included more than 30,000 people with a highly organized governmental system. They were reduced to no more than 2,000 Indians at the end of what would be called "King Philip’s War." King Phillip was known by his people as Metacomet, the son of Chief Massasoit who would welcome the Pilgrims to the New World (old world to the Indians) Metacomet would fight a war against the Puritans who were trying to move Wampanoag off their happy hunting grounds. Yet, as most Indian vs the paleface situations go, Metacomet lost.
Yet, the Puritans wanted to send a message to every Indian in New England just what can happen if they decide to get uppity. They decapitated Metacomet "King Phillip," his head was piked at the entrance of Fort Plymouth where it remained for TWO decades.
Now, I would also like to add here, that Metacomet "King Phillip" was what the Puritans called a "Praying Indian" meaning, he was a convert to the Puritan form of Christianity, he was baptized into their faith. But alas this didn't deter the Europeans who set their buckled shoes on Plymouth Rock from later on killing the Indians they once baptized. So, with all that being said, may you all have a wonderful day of fellowship and light fun. But please remember as you sink your teeth into that turkey drumstick which MeeMaw took such loving care and time to cook (98.00 bird?) to reflect and to be really thankful, not just on November 27th, but every day of the year. Because you might just be living on some land that was once inhabited by a tribe who no longer lives there. Maybe they we marched from one state to another (force marches, perish the thought) maybe you even live near an area where a massacre took place, or even by the res. Be thankful that you are free to live where you want to live, and practice your religion, ( or not practice) however you like. So, have a nice day, and spend that day wisely.
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11-27-2013, 12:05 AM
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Re: Turkeys Died To Set The White Man Free?
I live in 2013.
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11-27-2013, 12:17 AM
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Re: Turkeys Died To Set The White Man Free?
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I live in 2013.
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You sure do my brother, and thankful to be there.
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11-27-2013, 12:31 AM
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Re: Turkeys Died To Set The White Man Free?
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You sure do my brother, and thankful to be there. 
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Amen, we got issues but thankfully not like then.
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11-27-2013, 12:42 AM
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Re: Turkeys Died To Set The White Man Free?
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Amen, we got issues but thankfully not like then.
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Indeed thankful.
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11-27-2013, 01:04 AM
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Re: Turkeys Died To Set The White Man Free?
The problem with history is is not always pretty but quite ugly at times. The is when folks present the sanitized version.
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11-27-2013, 06:15 AM
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Re: Turkeys Died To Set The White Man Free?
Well, I'm thankful that we aren't living in some pagan Indian tribal community never having heard the gospel, collecting scalps and having to run the gauntlet for Okee.
Or that we aren't still stuck in the 'Old Country' having our friends and family burnt at the stake for 'heresy'.
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11-27-2013, 06:24 AM
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Re: Turkeys Died To Set The White Man Free?
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The problem with history is it's not always pretty but quite ugly at times. The problem is when folks present the sanitized version.
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Fixed type errors
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11-27-2013, 07:00 AM
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Re: Turkeys Died To Set The White Man Free?
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Well, I'm thankful that we aren't living in some pagan Indian tribal community never having heard the gospel, collecting scalps and having to run the gauntlet for Okee.
Or that we aren't still stuck in the 'Old Country' having our friends and family burnt at the stake for 'heresy'.
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I bet you are also thankful you didn't live during the Battle of Washita River to see the cavalry mowing down your wife and children under the hoofs of their horses.
Anyway, we can mosey all the way through time of the early history of this nation and point to different occurrences, like the Puritans hanging Quakers in Boston because they refused to conform.
Yet we don't celebrate (not that I know of ) any holiday that was started during a meal with Quakers, who years later ended up swinging from a rope in Boston.
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11-27-2013, 07:02 AM
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Re: Turkeys Died To Set The White Man Free?
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The problem with history is is not always pretty but quite ugly at times. The problem is when folks present the sanitized version.
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Yeah, they not only present the sanitized version but make a national holiday out of it.
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