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Old 01-07-2014, 07:45 AM
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Old 01-07-2014, 08:13 AM
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Silly you. Home Church people don't believe in tithes!
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Old 01-07-2014, 08:29 AM
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:52 AM
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Re: "Home Church" Question?

Paul wrote a wonderful chapter of instruction to the church in Rome. He covered many topics in this one chapter. It would be good for us all to read them again, and so I have posted the entire chapter below.

In this chapter, Abiding Now, if you will point out exactly what Paul exhorts the saints to do with their money, that would be great.

Romans 12
1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

4 For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office:

5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.

6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;

7 Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching;

8 Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness.

9 Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.

10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;

11 Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord;

12 Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;

13 Distributing to the necessity of saints; given to hospitality.

14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.

15 Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep.

16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.

17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.

18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
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Old 01-07-2014, 01:55 PM
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Silly you. Home Church people don't believe in tithes!
Well, that explains a lot of what I read around here.

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Paul wrote a wonderful chapter of instruction to the church in Rome. He covered many topics in this one chapter. It would be good for us all to read them again, and so I have posted the entire chapter below.

In this chapter, Abiding Now, if you will point out exactly what Paul exhorts the saints to do with their money, that would be great.

Romans 12
1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

4 For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office:

5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.

6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;

7 Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching;

8 Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness.

9 Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.

10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;

11 Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord;

12 Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;

13 Distributing to the necessity of saints; given to hospitality.

14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.

15 Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep.

16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.

17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.

18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
Thank you. I love that chapter with the instructions on Christian discipleship and loving our fellow man. Now, could you point out what Jesus said to do concerning tithe in this verse?

KJV Mat_23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
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Now that made me chuckle. Thanks I needed a good LOL.
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Thank you. I love that chapter with the instructions on Christian discipleship and loving our fellow man. Now, could you point out what Jesus said to do concerning tithe in this verse?

KJV Mat_23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
I think abiding is well able to answer, but I'd like to put my 2 cents in.

The short answer is, until the cross, Israel was still under the Law.

One of the things that Jesus came to do was to fulfill the Law. And then He 'took away the first in order to establish the second.' And I know, Abraham, paid tithes before the Law was established, but that still has nothing to do with us.

With the New Covenant, everything changed. About the only thing that remained the same, was 'faith' and 'love.' and actually a stronger faith and love, because it is the Holy Ghost that gives us that love. And thru the 'gifts that comes from the Holy Ghost' we can have more faith.
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Old 01-07-2014, 07:27 PM
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Oh this is such a softball question. Perhaps I will come back after my evening festivities.
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