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09-12-2015, 01:48 AM
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Apostolics losing their identity?
Found a PDF, a study of early apostolic hymnody. The conclusions reached by the author were striking:
"APOSTOLIC WORSHIP TODAY: IMPLICATIONS FOR ABANDONING AN APOSTOLIC HYMNODY The collective identity of Apostolic Pentecostals discussed in this study was predicated on their shared revelation of Jesus Christ. This shared revelation led to doctrinal claims and performance rituals that classified the movement as distinctly other. The first generation of Apostolic Pentecostals, like Azusa revivalists before them, wore their otherness as a badge of honor. Undoubtedly this community believed their otherness identified them as a people of the Name, endowed with the power of Jesus Christ, and commissioned to preach the full “apostolic gospel.” Today, however, the PAW is seemingly more lax about being distinctly other. While Apostolic doctrine and performance rituals remain, the hymnody of the first generation has long passed away.56 According to PAW bishop, Leonard Scott, attempts to revise standards like ‘Holy, Holy, Holy,’57 most of what is sung in PAW worship services is doctrinally generic. Furthermore, he concedes that although what is being sung has not moved away from exalting the deity of Jesus Christ, there is a noticeable shift towards songs whose lyrics stress unity within the entire Body of Christ and the simple [non-divisive] message of Christ’s death, burial, resurrection, and second coming.58 Bishop Scott’s observations spark a series of questions relating to continuity and identity: If a faith community significantly amends its musical repertoire to exclude its shared God-narrative how is faith being preserved, perpetuated, and reinforced? What songs have replaced the older Apostolic hymns? Are these new songs in sync with the apostolic gospel, or are they challenging it to near extinction? Is it fair to infer that the noticeable absence of an Apostolic musical catalogue means that popular agreement with Apostolic doctrine is waning? Even though the above questions are rhetorical, they convey the seriousness of one generation’s failure to successfully transfer to the next those resources required to develop a strong sense of collective identity. Moreover, while the emphasis on Christian unity is promising, it is also threatening to the life and longevity of the PAW as an Apostolic Pentecostal organization. Without a solid body of Apostolic songs to preserve “the language with which [the PAW] worships,”59 one can only presume that the current generation has lost--for better or for worse-both its sense of religious ancestral connectivity60 and collective otherness."
Original can be found by going here: https://journal.twu.ca/index.php/CJPC/article/view/73
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09-12-2015, 06:23 AM
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Re: Apostolics losing their identity?
Well yes I get it. But can they make some new Apostolic songs.....that do preserve the doctrine but nonetheless take us past the early 20th century hymns?
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09-12-2015, 08:49 AM
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Re: Apostolics losing their identity?
There was an apostolic hymnody?
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09-12-2015, 12:50 PM
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Re: Apostolics losing their identity?
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There was an apostolic hymnody?
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Yup. News to me also. From what I recall early Apostolics shared the vast majority of their hymnody with other Christian groups. There were a few songs clearly Oneness in lyrical content but certainly those were not the only songs sung.
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09-12-2015, 04:29 PM
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Re: Apostolics losing their identity?
Of course apostolic hymnody shared much in common with every body else. But there were numerous distinctly oneness pentecostal hymns and songs written in the early days. Those songs are being slowly but surely dropped, and (according to the article) no new distinctively apostolic hymnody has been developed - at least in the PAW, the subject of the study.
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09-12-2015, 06:47 PM
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Re: Apostolics losing their identity?
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Of course apostolic hymnody shared much in common with every body else. But there were numerous distinctly oneness pentecostal hymns and songs written in the early days. Those songs are being slowly but surely dropped, and (according to the article) no new distinctively apostolic hymnody has been developed - at least in the PAW, the subject of the study.
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Haney Jr. is changing all of that with his modern classic "I'm a Pentecostal"
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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09-12-2015, 07:09 PM
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Re: Apostolics losing their identity?
lol
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09-12-2015, 11:51 PM
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Re: Apostolics losing their identity?
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Haney Jr. is changing all of that with his modern classic "I'm a Pentecostal" 
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Haha. I was thinking the same thing.
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09-13-2015, 09:25 PM
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Re: Apostolics losing their identity?
"One, one, one,
One Way to God.
One, one, one,
One Way to God.
One, one, one,
One Way to God,
baptized in Jesus Name."
--song I haven't heard since childhood
In fact, growing up in my Dad's church, sometimes people made up their own songs and taught it to the church during, "Testimony Service".
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09-13-2015, 09:51 PM
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Re: Apostolics losing their identity?
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
"One, one, one,
One Way to God.
One, one, one,
One Way to God.
One, one, one,
One Way to God,
baptized in Jesus Name."
--song I haven't heard since childhood
In fact, growing up in my Dad's church, sometimes people made up their own songs and taught it to the church during, "Testimony Service".
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Still sing it here.
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