Trump is not Christian enough

[Originalist]

I want a President who at least respects Christianity and won't declare war on it like a certain White House occupier I can think of. But does the President have to be what my Biblical view says constitutes a true "Christian"? A friend of mine put it this way......

"Having a Christian as a President would be a real blessing. But, here is a thought as well;

When I need my lawn cut, I don't hire a Christian lawn guy. I hire someone who can cut my lawn right every time for the best price. If he is a Christian, I am very glad.

When I need an attorney, I don't hire a Christian attorney. I hire someone who is the biggest, baddest, most proficient, effective attorney I can afford. If she is a Christian I am glad.

Being a Christian isn't a detailed enough resume. There has to be more, in my opinion. That's just me.

My conclusion is that I've hired enough people who are Christians that can't be on time, finish the job, stay at the agreed upon price, or do what they said they would do.

Character matters. Competency matters as well."

Another friend of mine shared these thoughts....

You voted for GW Bush, but you can't vote for Trump if he's the nominee? I went to two Bush inaugurations and voted for him twice. Had a "private" dinner with him and about 300 hand picked supporters in D.C. I sat by Gloria Estafan, Don King, James Dobson and other big names in business, music and screen. It was AWESOME! However, as far as his "Christianity" is concerned, Bush was NO-where close to what many of you Ranters consider Christian. If you voted for Bush, you voted for a man who stated that the Muslim god and our God is the same God and publicly worshipped along side Muslims in mosques. Would you? You voted for a man who said that he did not believe the bible was literally true, but "you can learn a lot from it". He increased funding for planned parenthood. How many human beings died as a result of that? His gay and lesbian policies were the same as the Clintons. He regularly dropped the "F" bomb. So, you voted for Bush but can't vote for Trump because he's not Christian enough or he sinned more? I'm not endorsing Trump. I'm just saying, I...WILL...BE...VOTING. I voted for Bush twice because I didn't want Al Gore or John Kerry. They would have been a national disaster. So, if you voted for Bush, don't say you can't vote for Trump. The appeal for me right now for Trump is, he's not Hillary AND the establishment/insiders are so scared of him, that they are trying to rob him of the nomination and We The People of our voice. THAT should speak volumes. But again, to say you can't vote for Trump, but you voted for Bush is either hypocrisy or ignorance. GO VOTE! Cruz or Trump....its 6 one way, 1/2 dozen another. Either way, I'll vote. So, I'm done with the political post LOL and I sincerely hope I got under somebody's skin. Lol.

The above quote is from a Church of God pastor.

Name withheld.

[n david]

I'm not voting for a Pastor. Nor do I expect a President who wears his Christianity on his sleeve.

What I do expect is a President who has decency and decorum. A President who knows policy and the Constitution. A President who has substance, not just a lot of empty rhetoric. A President who doesn't threaten other Americans who exercise their right to fund other candidates or groups who may be against him. A President who doesn't threaten violence and publicly state his desire for good old days when dissenters were taken out on stretchers. A President who doesn't threaten a riot if he's not selected. A President who doesn't mock the disabled, women or Veterans. A President who doesn't make claims and slander people without proof. One especially who doesn't believe everything he sees on the internet is true without proof.

Nope, I don't need a Christian and I'm not expecting a Pastor.

But I do have basic expectations for a President, and Donald J. Drumpf is not it.

#NeverTrump #DropDrumpf

[Esaias]

THIS is why America has the puddling politicians it has had for the last 100 years.

Settle for less, you will get less.

Being a Christian ought to be the bare minimum requirement for any office seeker. In fact, it once was!

But then we divorced God from rulership (deposed him as King, in our minds and by our laws). So we get satan's table scraps instead.

[n david]

I should add that while I don't expect a President to wear his Christianity on his sleeve, I expect him to have a basic understanding of the Bible, if not also to follow the teachings of the Bible.

Trump fails badly on this with his rejection of forgiveness and repentance and his lack of rudimentary knowledge of the Bible.

[Pressing-On]

Article written by Dr. Robert P. George, who has been described by the New York Times as our nation’s “most influential conservative Christian thinker.” Dr. George has endorsed Ted Cruz.

Dr. George, an eminent scholar and teacher of constitutional interpretation, civil liberties, and philosophy of law, holds Princeton University’s celebrated McCormick Professorship of Jurisprudence and is founder and director of the James Madison Program in American Ideals and Institutions at Princeton. He has served the nation as a member of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, the President’s Council on Bioethics, and as Chairman of the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom. He is the author of a number of books, including In Defense of Natural Law, Making Men Moral: Civil Liberties and Public Morality, and Conscience and Its Enemies: Confronting the Dogmas of Liberal Secularism, and co-author of What is Marriage? Man and Woman: A Defense and Embryo: A Defense of Human Life.

An Appeal to Our Fellow Catholics And to all men and women of good will.

Donald Trump is manifestly unfit to be president of the United States. His campaign has already driven our politics down to new levels of vulgarity. His appeals to racial and ethnic fears and prejudice are offensive to any genuinely Catholic sensibility. He promised to order U.S. military personnel to torture terrorist suspects and to kill terrorists’ families — actions condemned by the Church and policies that would bring shame upon our country. And there is nothing in his campaign or his previous record that gives us grounds for confidence that he genuinely shares our commitments to the right to life, to religious freedom and the rights of conscience, to rebuilding the marriage culture, or to subsidiarity and the principle of limited constitutional government.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...tion-statement

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by n david

I should add that while I don't expect a President to wear his Christianity on his sleeve, I expect him to have a basic understanding of the Bible, if not also to follow the teachings of the Bible.

Trump fails badly on this with his rejection of forgiveness and repentance and his lack of rudimentary knowledge of the Bible.

Bush: Confessed Christ. Had a basic understanding of the need of God's forgiveness. Was a coke snorting drunk at one time. Cussed like a sailor.Kept hidden a DWI arrest. Does not believe the Bible is accurate. Was ecumenical with Muslims. Was NWO, open borders. Never addressed the PC against chaplains in the military being forbidden to use the name of Jesus. Grew government instead of shrinking it. Drug us into pointless wars.

Trump: Might actually have less biblical literacy than Bush , and has at least as many character flaws. But will close the border and shut down the invasion. Will shut down the PC war against Christianity. Will not kiss up to Muslims. Will not bow to the NWO. Will protect us without dragging us into pointless wars. Will promote fair trade and stand up to China.


But NDavid chooses the former over the latter.
Incredible.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Article written by Dr. Robert P. George, who has been described by the New York Times as our nation’s “most influential conservative Christian thinker.” Dr. George has endorsed Ted Cruz.

Dr. George, an eminent scholar and teacher of constitutional interpretation, civil liberties, and philosophy of law, holds Princeton University’s celebrated McCormick Professorship of Jurisprudence and is founder and director of the James Madison Program in American Ideals and Institutions at Princeton. He has served the nation as a member of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, the President’s Council on Bioethics, and as Chairman of the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom. He is the author of a number of books, including In Defense of Natural Law, Making Men Moral: Civil Liberties and Public Morality, and Conscience and Its Enemies: Confronting the Dogmas of Liberal Secularism, and co-author of What is Marriage? Man and Woman: A Defense and Embryo: A Defense of Human Life.

His appeals to racial and ethnic fears and prejudice are offensive to any genuinely Catholic sensibility.

So that is what Trump is doing, huh? We are just full of prejudice and racial /ethnic fears, huh? Objecting to the illegal invasion is just racism, huh?

Cruz should reject this clown's endorsement.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Bush: Confessed Christ. Had a basic understanding of the need of God's forgiveness. Was a coke snorting drunk at one time. Cussed like a sailor.Kept hidden a DWI arrest. Does not believe the Bible is accurate. Was ecumenical with Muslims. Was NWO, open borders. Never addressed the PC against chaplains in the military being forbidden to use the name of Jesus. Grew government instead of shrinking it. Drug us into pointless wars.

Trump: Might actually have less biblical literacy than Bush , and has at least as many character flaws. But will close the border and shut down the invasion. Will shut down the PC war against Christianity. Will not kiss up to Muslims. Will not bow to the NWO. Will protect us without dragging us into pointless wars. Will promote fair trade and stand up to China.


But NDavid chooses the former over the latter.
Incredible.

In the last debate he praised Marco Rubio for his "flexibility" with the Gang of 8. Therefore, you don't know what promises he will keep. He changes what he says on a daily basis, denies he has made statements, tweets like a 12-year old and never goes into any substantive detail on how he plans to accomplish all these glowing promises.

Now he and his team are ginning up their supporters to start a riot if he gets the most delegates and isn't nominated. Well, I have news - the RULES say 1237. He doesn't get to make the rules. If he isn't there, the RULES say we have a Contested Convention.

You know why Hillary and the Dems want him to be the nominee? His unfavorability ratings are at 67%. Hillary is at 57%. It is in her best interest to debate someone that people like even less.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Originalist

So that is what Trump is doing, huh? We are just full of prejudice and racial /ethnic fears, huh? Objecting to the illegal invasion is just racism, huh?

Cruz should reject this clown's endorsement.

Hey, I wasn't sure about the white supremacy accusation, but yesterday, I happened to engage with some of his supporters. Looking at their profiles, they are clearly racists. I was a little surprised by that and so now I have no idea what this man is about.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Bush: Confessed Christ. Had a basic understanding of the need of God's forgiveness. Was a coke snorting drunk at one time. Cussed like a sailor.Kept hidden a DWI arrest.

From what I've read of W, that was before his conversion.

Originally Posted by Originalist

Does not believe the Bible is accurate.

Yet still claims to read it every day and has described the impact it's had on his life.

Originally Posted by Originalist

Was ecumenical with Muslims. Was NWO, open borders.

Most Presidents turn into this. If elected, Trump will likely change as well.

Originally Posted by Originalist

Never addressed the PC against chaplains in the military being forbidden to use the name of Jesus.

Post your source.

Originally Posted by Originalist

Grew government instead of shrinking it. Drug us into pointless wars.

LoL if you think Trump won't!

Originally Posted by Originalist

But will close the border and shut down the invasion. Will shut down the PC war against Christianity. Will not kiss up to Muslims. Will not bow to the NWO. Will protect us without dragging us into pointless wars. Will promote fair trade and stand up to China.

There is no proof Trump will do any of these things. You're basing this on the word of a man who has already begun to soften his stance on immigration, and who has lied and changed positions more than you probably change your underwear.

Originally Posted by Originalist

But NDavid chooses the former over the latter.
Incredible.

Didn't realize W was running for President again. Pretty sure he can't. But you like trying to compare Trump with past Presidents like Reagan and W in hopes some gullible and uninformed people will fall for it.

I voted for Cruz, btw. W isn't on the ballot, and I wouldn't vote for W even if he were.