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Old 06-14-2007, 06:37 PM
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Does anyone know?

I was thinking about this a lot today...situations, trials, tribulations and trouble comes to everyone sooner or later.

More often than not, we hear folks say that it's the judgment of God when this or that happens.

But can anyone determine when the line is crossed between judgment and just life?! I mean, it rains on the just and unjust...when is it God and when is it just our turn to go through?!

Does this make sense?!
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Old 06-14-2007, 06:39 PM
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People that claim every bad thing in your life is the judgment of God are nothing more than dim-witted pseudo-spiritual morons.
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Old 06-14-2007, 06:42 PM
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Job said, "Though he slay me yet I'll trust Him" or something like that...Whatever comes our way, we have to trust that God will take care of us. ...It's ok, in my opinion, to question God - but if you don't get the answer you want, it should not change your feelings toward God. Much tribulation worketh patience and we grow from the times when we have to look to Him when we can't solve our own problems. In the end, it's all Good when you live for God but that doesn't mean it's all good when we go through the trial.

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Old 06-14-2007, 06:46 PM
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People that claim every bad thing in your life is the judgment of God are nothing more than dim-witted pseudo-spiritual morons.
AMEN, BRO....God allows things for our good that others may call judgment....Joseph's "brothers" meant what they did for his hurt, but God meant it for Good to save many people alive.

What others and even the devil can deal to us, God can take and make it into a situation that works for our Good!!!....Call it judgment or call it the trial of our faith, but I call it an opportunity for God to stengthen me and give me a greater victory and make me more than a Conqueror throught Christ who lives in me!
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Old 06-14-2007, 06:51 PM
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anybody remember this song?

Job’s God is True

Verse One:
I can feel.....the hand of Satan.......
As the temper....tries me sore.....
He has been before the Father.......
Asking leave....to tempt me more....

The Chorus:
Though God slay me....yet I'll trust Him....
I shall then.....come forth as gold.....
And I know...that He still liveth.....
For I feel....Him in my soul.......

Verse Two:
I can hear the Father grant it........
Saying do not touch his life.....
Though you crush him He'll not falter....
He will rise....above the strife....

Verse Three:
Though I struggle....I'll not stagger....
By His grace....I'll make it through....
For His grace....is all sufficient....
And I know....that God is true....

Verse Four:
When I've looked....all around me......
And His face....I cannot see....
Then I know that through the lattice........
He beholdeth even me......

The Chorus:
Though God slay me....yet I'll trust Him....
I shall then.....come forth as gold.....
And I know...that He still liveth.....
For I feel....Him in my soul.......
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For I know...that He still liveth.....
And I feel Him in my soul......

This historic famous hymn was the theme song for the great tent revivals of the 1940's and 1950's
It was the radio theme song for the Jack Coe Revival Center
Where W.D. Metzgar & Janie Metzgar were pastors
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Old 06-14-2007, 06:59 PM
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Did you ever pray Psalm 34 or Psalm 73 when you were going through trials and difficulties or Psalm 10 when you felt like God was silent?

Psalm 34:1 starts off
"I will bless the Lord at all times;
His praise shall continually be in my mouth."

In The Living Bible this reads
"I will praise the Lord no matter what happens.
I will constantly speak of His glories and grace."

Verse 19 says,
"Many are the afflictions of the righteous,
But the Lord delivers him out of them all."

In The Living Bible (TLB) this verse says:
"The good man does not escape all troubles --he has them too.
But the Lord helps him in each and every one."
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I was thinking about this a lot today...situations, trials, tribulations and trouble comes to everyone sooner or later.

More often than not, we hear folks say that it's the judgment of God when this or that happens.

But can anyone determine when the line is crossed between judgment and just life?! I mean, it rains on the just and unjust...when is it God and when is it just our turn to go through?!

Does this make sense?!
I think it's absurd to attribute everything to 1) the judgement of God and 2) the devil...

God tried Abraham by telling him to offer his only son...it was not the devil nor was it judgement.
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Old 06-14-2007, 07:45 PM
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Seems that when good things happen, God gets the blame, but when bad things happen, the devil gets the blame.

Most of the time, it's US that should get the blame!
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Old 06-14-2007, 08:13 PM
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I would have to agree with HeavenlyOne on this. Most of the time life deals us things in our finances and things such as that because of previous decisions and lifestyles we have lived. Not always but sometimes.

I think sickness and heart problems sometimes come because of the one too many decisions we have made to eat those hamburgers and fries at Mcd's and living life with no exercise and couch potatos.........ME included.
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Old 06-14-2007, 08:14 PM
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I would have to agree with HeavenlyOne on this. Most of the time life deals us things in our finances and things such as that because of previous decisions and lifestyles we have lived. Not always but sometimes.

I think sickness and heart problems sometimes come because of the one too many decisions we have made to eat those hamburgers and fries at Mcd's and living life with no exercise and couch potatos.........ME included.
and the moral of the story is........... now, get ready for this.... it is very simple!!













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