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Old 02-04-2009, 11:29 AM
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the danger of Reckhart's assumptions

Let me point something out here, and if you read Reckhart's letter, you will see a clear example of it. It is the danger of only picking the winners!

To bring up examples of how women with uncut hair were used mightily of God, or were able to lay their uncut hair across a child and saw them healed... the problem is that the BIAS is towards winners.

How about all the other women who did the exact same thing, but their child wasn't healed? Or their required miracle didn't happen? What about them?

I am in no way making fun of anyone here, anything but that! However God chooses to intervene and why, I will leave that up to HIM. I can't photocopy somebody else's experience and try to imitate it as gospel.

Bro. Reckhart, If we were to take this same BIAS, and apply it as a principle. What about all the healings and miracles that take place under Trinitarian ministeries? How do you valid that? Or what about the Preacher who has sin in his life, say he is having an affair... but he prays for people in his church and they are healed? Is that a sign of God's approval of the individual?? Of course not! God in his infallible wisdom has simply chosen to intervene.... for whatever reason that may be.

It is a gross error to simply pick the winners and try to use those examples as doctrinal truth. We must stay firm on principles that can be equally applied in all situations!!
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:36 AM
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Re: the danger of Reckhart's assumptions

This is the exact same reason that "cold reading" (the kind that John Edwards and even some evangelists use when they give words of knowledge). It is about throwing a whole bunch of stuff out there and the brain automatically locks on to the stuff that happens to be "right" or even vaguely so.
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Re: the danger of Reckhart's assumptions

Very good thinking. But you will get in trouble for being logical.
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This is the exact same reason that "cold reading" (the kind that John Edwards and even some evangelists use when they give words of knowledge). It is about throwing a whole bunch of stuff out there and the brain automatically locks on to the stuff that happens to be "right" or even vaguely so.
Suppose this has been going on for a long time? Many centuries, maybe?
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Re: the danger of Reckhart's assumptions

the danger of this cat is the possibility that someone will believe any word that comes forth from his fingertips.

Mr. Wrecked Heart needs to spend some quality time repenting before God for the awful things he has said and done in the name of Jesus Christ.
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the danger of this cat is the possibility that someone will believe any word that comes forth from his fingertips.

Mr. Wrecked Heart needs to spend some quality time repenting before God for the awful things he has said and done in the name of Jesus Christ.


Wrecked heart!
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Wrecked heart!
really there isnt much to laugh at with this fellow.

he will be lost as two boys kissing if he doesnt deal with the venom in his heart.
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Let me point something out here, and if you read Reckhart's letter, you will see a clear example of it. It is the danger of only picking the winners!

To bring up examples of how women with uncut hair were used mightily of God, or were able to lay their uncut hair across a child and saw them healed... the problem is that the BIAS is towards winners.

How about all the other women who did the exact same thing, but their child wasn't healed? Or their required miracle didn't happen? What about them?
One could say the same thing about scriptures such as James 5:14-15. If one wanted to be consistent.

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I am in no way making fun of anyone here, anything but that! However God chooses to intervene and why, I will leave that up to HIM. I can't photocopy somebody else's experience and try to imitate it as gospel.

Bro. Reckhart, If we were to take this same BIAS, and apply it as a principle. What about all the healings and miracles that take place under Trinitarian ministeries?
Or Roman Catholic, or Mormon, or Hindu, or Wicca.

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How do you valid that? Or what about the Preacher who has sin in his life, say he is having an affair... but he prays for people in his church and they are healed? Is that a sign of God's approval of the individual?? Of course not! God in his infallible wisdom has simply chosen to intervene.... for whatever reason that may be.
Or God had nothing to do with it.

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Re: the danger of Reckhart's assumptions

Timmy, the rest of your post I get, except the part about James 5:14-15. It says the prayer of faith shall SAVE the sick... not heal the sick. Maybe let me know what you were referencing this one for, I missed it. Gracias
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Timmy, the rest of your post I get, except the part about James 5:14-15. It says the prayer of faith shall SAVE the sick... not heal the sick. Maybe let me know what you were referencing this one for, I missed it. Gracias
What, you think that's talking about salvation from sin?

Is any sick among you? What, is he asking about "sick with sin" or something? Besides, he explicitly contrasts the "saving" of the sick by continuing, "and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him."

Do you believe the Bible teaches divine healing, perhaps in other scriptures?
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