Baptismal Formula

Kutless · #1 02-08-2008, 09:58 PM

I think I may have asked this before so forgive me. BUt what if someone baptized saying.....

"I now baptize you in the name of the F.S. and H. which is Jesus Christ".

Rev · #2 02-08-2008, 10:11 PM

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I think I may have asked this before so forgive me. BUt what if someone baptized saying.....

"I now baptize you in the name of the F.S. and H. which is Jesus Christ".

Because it takes the emphasis off of the name of Jesus Christ.

(Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Kutless · #3 02-08-2008, 10:16 PM

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Because it takes the emphasis off of the name of Jesus Christ.

(Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

definitely but still envokes it

Rev · #4 02-08-2008, 10:19 PM

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definitely but still envokes it

Some did that in the early part of oneness (1914?) but droppped it later.

Praxeas · #5 02-09-2008, 02:23 AM

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definitely but still envokes it

So? Invoke....the whole point of what Jesus says is not about invoking a special word that can do something.....it's about stating the authority by which you are baptizing.

Kutless · #6 02-09-2008, 01:42 PM

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So? Invoke....the whole point of what Jesus says is not about invoking a special word that can do something.....it's about stating the authority by which you are baptizing.

so you would agree with this form of baptism?

Praxeas · #7 02-09-2008, 01:47 PM

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so you would agree with this form of baptism?

No....why would you say that?

ManOfWord · #8 02-09-2008, 09:17 PM

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So? Invoke....the whole point of what Jesus says is not about invoking a special word that can do something.....it's about stating the authority by which you are baptizing.

Actually, from my study of the Jewish Roots of Christianity, I found that baptism was absolutely nothing new in the NT at all. Not only that, but it was not uncommon in Jesus' time for disciples to go through the Mikveh (Jewish baptism) and be immersed in the name of the Rabbi/Teacher whose teaching they were following, and to whom they were separating themselves TO. From a Jewish perspective, authority was not the focus, the person being separated TO was the focus.

So, from that standpoint, we are immersed in the name of our "Rabbi" signifying that we are separating ourselves TO Him. We are joining ourselves to His teaching etc. This was no small matter in biblical times. It was extremely serious and a big commitment as well.

Kutless · #9 02-10-2008, 06:56 PM

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Actually, from my study of the Jewish Roots of Christianity, I found that baptism was absolutely nothing new in the NT at all. Not only that, but it was not uncommon in Jesus' time for disciples to go through the Mikveh (Jewish baptism) and be immersed in the name of the Rabbi/Teacher whose teaching they were following, and to whom they were separating themselves TO. From a Jewish perspective, authority was not the focus, the person being separated TO was the focus.

So, from that standpoint, we are immersed in the name of our "Rabbi" signifying that we are separating ourselves TO Him. We are joining ourselves to His teaching etc. This was no small matter in biblical times. It was extremely serious and a big commitment as well.

I read similar MOW. Hey have you ever had a face to face talk with a Rabbi......jus wonderin

BrotherEastman · #10 02-11-2008, 11:48 AM

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Actually, from my study of the Jewish Roots of Christianity, I found that baptism was absolutely nothing new in the NT at all. Not only that, but it was not uncommon in Jesus' time for disciples to go through the Mikveh (Jewish baptism) and be immersed in the name of the Rabbi/Teacher whose teaching they were following, and to whom they were separating themselves TO. From a Jewish perspective, authority was not the focus, the person being separated TO was the focus.

So, from that standpoint, we are immersed in the name of our "Rabbi" signifying that we are separating ourselves TO Him. We are joining ourselves to His teaching etc. This was no small matter in biblical times. It was extremely serious and a big commitment as well.

Good lesson! Thanks for the nugget.