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Old 03-24-2009, 05:32 PM
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Re: Impeach Obama....

Obama is a socialist and has no business trying to run a democratic republic as a matter of fact the man has no clue what it means to be a democratic republic . Grant it , the GOP failed to practice true conservativism which should always practice fiscal responsibility , strong defense , personal responsibility , right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness , secure borders and including GOD in everything we do .

The Constitution is enemy #1 of Obama and in order for him to work his liberal statist agenda he must go against everything it stands for

It is a shameful time in our nation to have such a Marxist as our President and impeachment and expulsion of him and his kind would be a blessing to our nation .
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Old 03-24-2009, 06:21 PM
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Not only are they closing Gitmo, but they are going to let some of those gents come live here in America. I'm sure you'd like them for neighbors wouldn't you Mike?

What I'd have prefered is that from the beginning the rule of law would have been upheld instead of the bungling by the Bush administration and it's ridiculous Justice Department. They should have been brought into the federal court system or some other form of military justice.

This isn't anything new to the fundamental beliefs of this country. Apprehend them, gather evidence, prosecute them, give them the right to legal defense, and convict them and put them away/execute them or turn them loose.

American's don't believe in endlessly imprisoning people and never giving them a chance at a fair trial.

I know Dick Cheney, GWB, Alberto Gonzalez and some Republicans aren't concerned with the rule of law, but some still believe in it.

By the way Rev, this ex-Bush official says the majority of those in Gitmo are innocent. http://www.startribune.com/world/415...D3aPc:_Yyc:aUU

Gitmo is a blight on this country and it's been one of Al-Qaeda's best recruitment means.
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Re: Impeach Obama....

Mike you didn't answer the question. Woukd you like a few of them moving next door to you?
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Old 03-24-2009, 08:39 PM
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People are already saying he may be worse than Jimmy Carter.
Don't believe everything everyone says. His political enemies started that the day after he was elected. lol

Here's the deal...after four years we'll have a better idea of how well or how badly he did. What if tomorrow something big goes down and his diplomatic savvy prevents a nuclear war? He'd be hailed a national hero. My momma taught me not to count my chicks before they hatch.
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Obama was rotten before he was elected. All the abortion folks knew where he stood. On other matters, he voted present and missed work a lot to write his memoires. It is pathethic how his own house purchase had fraud in it.

1..He had an indicted criminal in France fund one leg of the transaction
2 He had seen his lender fired because he was required to substitute a fraudulent appraisal
3 His partner to the deal is in Jail. rezco
4 His real estate agent is under criminal complaint and the agents husband was Gov blagojevech.

The world says it is not a crime unless there is a criminal conviction. god doesn't see it that way. Democrats do. The problem Obama has with his low life ethics is that he only sorta confesses when he gets busted by the newspapers.
Bro....he's a politician. The Republicans have the same kinds of issues. This is all par for the course. Obama isn't a saint. I don't believe that for a minute. All politicians make my stomach turn. But my point is that we aren't even six months into his Presidency and you guys are crying like little babies. Give it at least two years or a whole term and we can all reflect. I'll be the first to admit to the fact that he was a terrible President if indeed is proves himself to be so. All I'm saying is have some guts and patience...the man's plan isn't even off the ground. It's like complaining about a pilot's "rough flying" while the engines are just getting warmed up.

When people jump this early with the lambasting...they loose all creditability. I like the fact that most of the REAL conservatives are being REAL quiet right now...they're waiting to see what happens before they open their big mouths and possibly be found looking REAL stupid in four years.
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I know you are a big Obama fan, but really I would have expected you to be more informed.
I voted for him. I'm not a "big fan", I certainly have my doubts. But here's the deal...it's too early to criticize him in earnest. It will only discredit any criticism of him if all the ideologues start crying foul this early.

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One of the things he promised was he would not sign any bill until it has at least 4 days to review it and it would be placed on the internet so the "people" could read it first BEFORE he signed it.
I see your point. However, sometimes circumstances call for immediate action while the political iron's hot. Was it a promise unfulfilled here? Sure, I'll give you that. But if by the end of his presidency he's fulfilled 75% of his promises...I'll be impressed. I'm not going to get my panties in a bunch this early. Personally....I think candidates make a lot of promises they "can't" fulfill. When they get into office and see how Washington really works...the rules often change. This isn't that big of a deal to me. Every President has their "rushed" legislation.

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Well we all know how he pushed the stimulus package with ONE hour to read over a 1,000 pages! The White House has gone totally nuts!
Bro....you obviously have no clue as to how the Bush Administration did things. This is standard political procedure anymore. It's sad...but true. It's not about Obama. It's about Washington. It's the way the system works. It's the way the advisers call on things to get done. It's a massive machine of many many people...it's not one man's doing. Anyone who tells you it is, is either lying to you or is an absolute space cadet.

I remember when Carter was interviewed, he voiced how shocked he was when his advisers and those conducting briefings sat down and said, "Mr. President...this is what you will do..." There is a machine in place right now. Obama's going to have to shake a lot of hands to get things to slow down and function even close to how he'd like it to.
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And what about not appointing anyone that was a lobbist?

Or being the most ethical (is not paying income taxes ethical?)
Name someone in politics that hasn't been or had deep contact with lobbyists. And name one politician who hasn't been in some questionable tax scheme. Get real folks. This is all standard Washington junk. The Republicans and the Bush Administration have done the same stuff. I find it laughable how you guys cry foul on the Democrats but ignore and even deny the same behavior when your guy's in office.
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I feel like he lied to us. His showmanship outrage on AIG bonuses are the first clue.
Wow...a President struggles to keep campaign promises. Obama's a politician.
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Obama, while a complete and dithering idiot, has yet to do anything worthy of impeachment.
Thank you Ferd, well said.

When it comes to Bush...I think we should prosecute him for war crimes. Launching a war of choice based on trumped up charges wherein 80,000 people die should be seriously investigated. If found that the evidence was trumped up or partially fabricated...he should face execution.
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And he will but...it will be covered by corrupt media and government officials.

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What you mean is that the left leaning media outlets will cover up Obama's corruption like the right leaning media outlets covered up Bush's.
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