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Old 05-16-2007, 12:38 PM
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1) Acts 2:14, men who're accused in court have to stand up to hear the charges. Those who were accused of being drunk stood up, to answer their critics, we read here that 12 and not 120 stood up to answer their accusers.
This wasn't court. If what you said is true then ALL 12 should have given a response, but only Peter spoke. That shows that even IF this was a court they did not all need to stand up as Peter was representing them all. So your argument falls flat for several reasons.

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2) Acts 2:43, I agree that this was spoken at a time after the 3,000 had been saved. However if these 3,00 had spoken in tongues, then this verse would have read; 'and many wonders and signs were done by the 3,120.' The use of the word 'apostles' here, limits the tongues at this time to just the 12 apostles.
Obfuscation. You used this argument to show that only 12 spoke in tongues at first and not 120. Yet you are admitting my argument that this was a while AFTER the events of Pentecost. This statement is also subsequent to the 3000 being saved too.

Lastly it does not say and ONLY the 12 did signs, wonders and miracles. It simply notes many signs and wonders were done by their hands...this AFTER the 3000 were saved
Act 2:43 And awe came upon every soul, and many wonders and signs were being done through the apostles.

You seem to have trouble with grammar and the english language. If I said "Many discussions were had between Iron Bladder and Praxeas....Robert does that mean ONLY you and I were having discussions?? Answer that please.

Now go refute my points as you have not quoted me once and addressed each point specifically.
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