Nazarene Preacher to be baptized! - Page 3

notofworks · #1 02-02-2011, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OldPathsII

You're calling being identified with Christ through the calling of His precious name a baptism a magic formula? That is so offensive, I'm not even sure how to respond!!! God help you and your profound disrespect to the name that is above all other names, the strong tower in which the righteous run into and are safe, the only name by which there is salvation, the name by which we do everything!!!

No, calling on the name of Jesus is not a magic formula but it is the only name that can be said at baptism which will result in the remission of our sins and thereby prepare us for eternity! Without the name of Jesus called upon at baptism, there is no heaven and only eternal suffering!

Brother, please take back your disrespectful statement! I fear for you!

So, OldPathsII is saying, here, that if a person doesn't have particular words said over them at baptism, they're going to hell. So can I respond??? Admin, anyone out there? CanI respond to this? These are very strong words.

Sam · #2 02-02-2011, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

So, OldPathsII is saying, here, that if a person doesn't have particular words said over them at baptism, they're going to hell. So can I respond??? Admin, anyone out there? CanI respond to this? These are very strong words.

what if the "formula" or "incantation" is a mixture of titles and the name?

what if titles like Father, or Lord, or Son, or Savior are used along with the name?

Is that OK?
or should it be done over again in the (singular) name?

RandyWayne · #3 02-02-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

what if the "formula" or "incantation" is a mixture of titles and the name?

what if titles like Father, or Lord, or Son, or Savior are used along with the name?

Is that OK?
or should it be done over again in the (singular) name?

Then there is the theory held by some that it MUST be done in a river where water is flowing by.

Trouvere · #4 02-04-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

what if the "formula" or "incantation" is a mixture of titles and the name?

what if titles like Father, or Lord, or Son, or Savior are used along with the name?

Is that OK?
or should it be done over again in the (singular) name?

We should ourselves be calling upon the name of the Lord not just the one doing the baptizing. The Bible says His name is Jesus.

MissBrattified · #5 02-02-2011, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

So, OldPathsII is saying, here, that if a person doesn't have particular words said over them at baptism, they're going to hell. So can I respond??? Admin, anyone out there? CanI respond to this? These are very strong words.

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Guys if you want to argue over doctrine please take it to the theological debate forum

There's your answer.

Trouvere · #6 02-04-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

I practice baptism in Jesus name. I preach baptism in Jesus name. I don't believe it's a magic formula or a point of contention so that people, who are already saved by grace through faith in Jesus, should be re-baptized or even regarded as "getting saved" because of their "rebaptism." That's not Apostolic at all.

Evidently then Paul was just spinning his wheels in Acts Chapter 19?
(Acts 19:5 [KJV])
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

They were believers.
Why not just lay hands on them and let them talk in tongues and walk away believing they were saved.
Is this what Paul preached or not?

Socialite · #7 02-04-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouvere

Evidently then Paul was just spinning his wheels in Acts Chapter 19?
(Acts 19:5 [KJV])
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

They were believers.
Why not just lay hands on them and let them talk in tongues and walk away believing they were saved.
Is this what Paul preached or not?

Your point and scripture reference do not overturn justification by faith -- they only point to the tradition of the Church that those who come to faith in Jesus will be baptized.

You project much too far into this episode in the Acts story.

Trouvere · #8 02-04-2011, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

Your point and scripture reference do not overturn justification by faith -- they only point to the tradition of the Church that those who come to faith in Jesus will be baptized.

You project much too far into this episode in the Acts story.

No you are not seeing it clearly. I know exactly what it says. I feel though it does not fit your theology.

Socialite · #9 02-04-2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouvere

No you are not seeing it clearly. I know exactly what it says. I feel though it does not fit your theology.

Ok.

RandyWayne · #10 02-02-2011, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouvere

We started Bible school two Saturdays ago and voila.....A young man who attends the nearby Nazarene Church joined us. After two Saturdays of
Who is Your God, Old Testament Survey, Pneumatology and Biblical Greek this young man has decided to not only attend our services but bring clothes to be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ for remission of Sins....yippeee.....

We didn't do it.....Jesus did....we are only servants. It is amazing though watching all Jesus does. I would not want to miss it for the world.

In Jesus,
Dana Klein

Congrats!