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06-25-2012, 07:48 PM
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Re: Just Some Things I've Been Holding In
Matt, please don't take medical advice from idiots on the internet. Take your meds as prescribed, please. Forgive your sis and BIL, and talk to your doctor.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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06-25-2012, 08:02 PM
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Re: Just Some Things I've Been Holding In
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Matt, please don't take medical advice from idiots on the internet. Take your meds as prescribed, please. Forgive your sis and BIL, and talk to your doctor.
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Let the church say amen.
I wish that some godly men and women would get on here tonight and see this thread and give some godly advice.
I have no ill will towards any of the posters but this is a Pentecostal - Apostolic CHRISTIAN forum and while a wide array of opinions on many matters is welcome on here counseling people to leave church and use illegal drugs is absurd.
This thread is not some theoretical discussion on doctrine or church culture. It is a man bearing his soul. A man who is going through a really tough time right now and needs godly, spiritual advice.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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06-25-2012, 08:11 PM
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Re: Just Some Things I've Been Holding In
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Let the church say amen.
I wish that some godly men and women would get on here tonight and see this thread and give some godly advice.
I have no ill will towards any of the posters but this is a Pentecostal - Apostolic CHRISTIAN forum and while a wide array of opinions on many matters is welcome on here counseling people to leave church and use illegal drugs is absurd.
This thread is not some theoretical discussion on doctrine or church culture. It is a man bearing his soul. A man who is going through a really tough time right now and needs godly, spiritual advice.
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Ya, well I am the Church, and it's legal where I come from, and if it wasn't,
I wouldn't care, as I don't listen to satan anyway--that guy you are about to vote for. I don't expect to be listened to or respected by everyone--I don't need your respect, I have my own now, and God gave it to me. We are talking about someone's life here, and I'm deadly serious.
Church is a great thing, if it's a great thing, but obv that isn't working out for him. It's been a week, how many concerned calls you got, Matt? You shouldn't listen to me, BAM, let the Spirit guide you. Anyone who clings to "Christian" can suck eggs, this idiot says (ty, btw)--I stand by my posts.
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06-25-2012, 08:16 PM
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Re: Just Some Things I've Been Holding In
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Ya, well I am the Church, and it's legal where I come from, and if it wasn't,
I wouldn't care, as I don't listen to satan anyway--that guy you are about to vote for. I don't expect to be listened to or respected by everyone--I don't need your respect, I have my own now, and God gave it to me. We are talking about someone's life here, and I'm deadly serious.
Church is a great thing, if it's a great thing, but obv that isn't working out for him. It's been a week, how many concerned calls you got, Matt? You shouldn't listen to me, BAM, let the Spirit guide you. Anyone who clings to "Christian" can suck eggs, this idiot says (ty, btw)--I stand by my posts.
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Since ILG has never answered the question why don't you take a shot at answering how you guys think you are above what God set up in his word for your teaching and edification? How do you excuse not having a pastor to be an under shepherd for you? The New Testament clearly had churches with elders. You have yourself.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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06-25-2012, 08:19 PM
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Re: Just Some Things I've Been Holding In
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Originally Posted by CC1
Since ILG has never answered the question why don't you take a shot at answering how you guys think you are above what God set up in his word for your teaching and edification? How do you excuse not having a pastor to be an under shepherd for you? The New Testament clearly had churches with elders. You have yourself.
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You are mistaken. I have a Right Pastor, and you don't even know what that is.
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06-25-2012, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CC1
Where you anti church people miss the point is that you want to throw out the baby with the bath water.
You may have had bad experiences at your church but that does not mean there are not good churches out there that are fulfilling their role in bringing people to Christ and discipling them.
A person in crisis like this desperately needs the love and prayers of a church family and the counsel of a godly man or men.
You guys want him to cut ties, be on his own, and just take some more drugs. Good grief. This is the first time in a long time I have just outright wanted to rebuke people on this forum.
Tell me this batman. How many of you brilliant people who "take a break" from church ever go back? How many ever search and find one to plug in to?
The answer is pretty much zero and you know as well as I do the bible is clear about the role of pastors and teachers in a Christians life. How do you explain away that?
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Great post.
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06-25-2012, 08:02 PM
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Re: Just Some Things I've Been Holding In
Ya, BAM, take some more fluoride, she's
prolly right. I'm an idiot, maybe, but my
father respects me, and I'm off happy pills.
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06-25-2012, 09:08 PM
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Re: Just Some Things I've Been Holding In
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Ya, BAM, take some more fluoride, she's
prolly right. I'm an idiot, maybe, but my
father respects me, and I'm off happy pills.
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Oh, you're not an idiot. Just misunderstood.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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06-25-2012, 08:18 PM
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Re: Just Some Things I've Been Holding In
But to be a little clearer, now that I have a sec,
I don't advocate leaving your church,
unless it is the problem,
and then I say "RUN."
I don't advocate getting off your happy pills,
unless they contain fluoride, easily searchable
at Google, and then I say "RUN."
You are going to go thru withdrawal,
and eating pot, if it is legal (quack)
got me through. If you're using it
to get high, then expect to get depressed later-
-it isn't a puzzle.
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06-25-2012, 08:25 PM
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Re: Just Some Things I've Been Holding In
People this is not a medical forum. So please refrain from giving medical advice, pro or con. Try to encourage and uplift Matt through prayer, and if need be PM him if you want to.
Y'all can debate church vs non church.
Please just keep your comments civil.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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