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[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Paul was not a male chauvinist. He was a Hebrew, a Jew, who lived in the first century.

It was cultural that women wore veils long before Paul was born.

He was no more a male chauvinist for using "Father" instead of "Creator" than Jesus was or Peter

God Himself identified Himself as Father!

2Sa 7:14 I will be to him a father, and he shall be to me a son. When he commits iniquity, I will discipline him with the rod of men, with the stripes of the sons of men,

All Jews considered God their "Father". ALL Jews did. Male or Female. They did not have personal issues over it like you do or today's psychologically weak generation.

You aren't helping anyone by bowing to a small shrill minority that hate God

don't confuse topics. paul said all women should wear veils. was that the "inspired" word of god or a fallible verse of scripture from paul speaking from a "cultural context"?

i am not saying that paul is a chauvinist for using father, that is a separate issue. i am saying that paul is a chauvinist for saying that women should keep silent in the church, should not have authority over men, and should learn in silence and ask their husbands when they get home. is that the inspired word from god or paul speaking humanly from a cultural context?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

don't confuse topics. paul said all women should wear veils. was that the "inspired" word of god or a fallible verse of scripture from paul speaking from a "cultural context"?

I didn't confuse a topic. Don't brush off my answer
and pretend I did not answer you

i am not saying that paul is a chauvinist for using father, that is a separate issue. i am saying that paul is a chauvinist for saying that women should keep silent in the church, should not have authority over men, and should learn in silence and ask their husbands when they get home. is that the inspired word from god or paul speaking humanly from a cultural context?

No that is NOT a separate issue. THAT is the topic.

I addresses why Paul said that about women. You dijdn't like it for some reason

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Paul was not a male chauvinist. He was a Hebrew, a Jew, who lived in the first century.

It was cultural that women wore veils long before Paul was born.

He was no more a male chauvinist for using "Father" instead of "Creator" than Jesus was or Peter

God Himself identified Himself as Father!

2Sa 7:14 I will be to him a father, and he shall be to me a son. When he commits iniquity, I will discipline him with the rod of men, with the stripes of the sons of men,

All Jews considered God their "Father". ALL Jews did. Male or Female. They did not have personal issues over it like you do or today's psychologically weak generation.

You aren't helping anyone by bowing to a small shrill minority that hate God

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I didn't confuse a topic. Don't brush off my answer
and pretend I did not answer you


No that is NOT a separate issue. THAT is the topic.

I addresses why Paul said that about women. You dijdn't like it for some reason

you can't have it both ways. you said the bible was the inspired word of God then you said Paul was a first century jew and that wearing veils was cultural before paul. so which is it inspired or cultural?

you did not address women keeping silent in the churches and not having authority over men. check your posts. i just did. is that inspired or chauvinistic cultural context? if not was it the correct hermeneutics?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

you can't have it both ways. you said the bible was the inspired word of God then you said Paul was a first century jew and that wearing veils was cultural before paul. so which is it inspired or cultural?

you did not address women keeping silent in the churches and not having authority over men. check your posts. i just did. is that inspired or chauvinistic cultural context? if not was it the correct hermeneutics?

Wow...being inspired and having content that dealt with issues in Paul's day are not contradictory.

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Wow...being inspired and having content that dealt with issues in Paul's day are not contradictory.

so if Paul's content was cultural and does not apply today, then using father and son instead of creator and redeemer could be cultural also.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

so if Paul's content was cultural and does not apply today, then using father and son instead of creator and redeemer could be cultural also.

That it could be is irrelevent. You are confusing interpretation with changing what the bible says