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Old 06-18-2007, 10:26 AM
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Daniel I think the controversary really concerns His human nature whether it was a fallen sinful nature or not. True the end result is the same He did Not sin. He could not have failed. Yet this aspect I think deserves the discussion.
Incorrect. Adam and Eve had no sinful nature before they sinned. But Eve was still tempted and succumbed.
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:28 AM
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Incorrect. Adam and Eve had no sinful nature before he sinned. But Eve was still tempted and succumbed.
Adam nor Eve was the Incarnate God that is the difference. Jesus was GOD made flesh. Adam was NOT God made flesh.
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Adam nor Eve was the Incarnate God that is the difference. Jesus was GOD made flesh. Adam was NOT God made flesh.
Flesh is manly flesh ... sorry ... unless you are saying his flesh is divine.
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:35 AM
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Flesh is manly flesh ... sorry ... unless you are saying his flesh is divine.
No His flesh was NOT divine however Divinity was INCARNATED in that flesh. His blood came from God Himself so he did not have the stain of Adam's sin in His holy nature.
Jesus said "the prince of this world cometh and hath nothing in me." The devil could not point to ONE thing or flaw in His life and nature. His nature was SINLESS not SINFUL.
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No His flesh was NOT divine however Divinity was INCARNATED in that flesh. His blood came from God Himself so he did not have the stain of Adam's sin in His holy nature.
Jesus said "the prince of this world cometh and hath nothing in me." The devil could not point to ONE thing or flaw in His life and nature. His nature was SINLESS not SINFUL.
His blood came from who???

This is the divine blood doctrine???

His blood came from his humanity ....
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:39 AM
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His blood came from who???

This is the divine blood doctrine???

His blood came from his humanity ....
NOPE the blood came from God. Acts 20:28.

The created blood of God.
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NOPE the blood came from God. Acts 20:28.

The created blood of God.
God created Adam's blood, too! You are too close to divine flesh teaching, Bro Epley.
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NOPE the blood came from God. Acts 20:28.

The created blood of God.
How does this verse prove your divine blood doctrine???

28Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Someone call brother Bernard, quick!!!
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:55 AM
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NOPE the blood came from God. Acts 20:28.

The created blood of God.

You are misinterpreting that scripture, Elder...

The role of the Holy Spirit in that passage is the appointment of Elders...the blood refers to Christ and his dying on the cross.


He is a more accessible rendition:


“So guard yourselves and God’s people. Feed and shepherd God’s flock—his church, purchased with his own blood—over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you as elders."
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Adam nor Eve was the Incarnate God that is the difference. Jesus was GOD made flesh. Adam was NOT God made flesh.
That is not the point. Jesus is the LAST ADAM. It matters not if Jesus was God incarnate in this issue. It matters if he had flesh like us or not.

Otherwise, HE WAS NO EXAMPLE! And we miss all the purposes of why He said He did nothing without the Father in Him doing the works. That is just our position, as well. We have GOD IN US. And we can therefore walk after that Spirit like Jesus did and succeed.
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