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07-07-2007, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
It has been stated on AFF in the past that new testament Prophets are allowed to miss it sometimes. While I could understand a novice being tutored would be given some leeway, I have a hard time believing that a "Prophet" would be able to miss it, and remain a Prophet in good standing. If we use this as a rule for Prophets, then would we not have to likewise use it for the rest of the ministry?
Think about it. I go to church not sure whether the Pastor will hit or miss. The Evangelist will come in and maybe he will hit it......then again maybe not. And the Teacher...........one time he teaches sound doctrine, and the next............
Consider the implications that such a belief could bring with it.
What do you thing??
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I don't think anyone is allowed to miss it.
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07-07-2007, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
I don't think anyone is allowed to miss it.
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Wow, Praxeas. I will never question you again because you aren't allowed to miss it.
I do however, so I could miss.
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07-07-2007, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron
Wow, Praxeas. I will never question you again because you aren't allowed to miss it.
I do however, so I could miss.
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huh? If I said I don't think we are allowed to fornicate would you say the same thing?
Sorry I don't think missing it is allowed. I don't think giving a prophesy that was not really from God is allowed. If you think it is allowed then fine. But that in no way implies I never make mistakes. Good grief, what is wrong with some of you people lately?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-07-2007, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
huh? If I said I don't think we are allowed to fornicate would you say the same thing?
Sorry I don't think missing it is allowed. I don't think giving a prophesy that was not really from God is allowed. If you think it is allowed then fine. But that in no way implies I never make mistakes. Good grief, what is wrong with some of you people lately?
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Nothing wrong Prax. The point is we aren't supposed to sin either, do we?
The real saints do.
The Bibles says to go on to perfection-not that we are perfect--yet.
I guess because people miss it, do we stone them?
Do we cast them aside?
I Corr 13 says that we prophesy in part.
We are to try the spirits.
If one were to always be missing it, I wouldn't put much stock in it.
If they were pretty much bang on, I would give it more weight, but I would still discern to see if they may have missed it.
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07-07-2007, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron
Nothing wrong Prax. The point is we aren't supposed to sin either, do we?
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So then you AGREE with me. Good grief, why not just say that. Yes we are not allowed to sin nor are we allowed to miss it in prophecy. Why are some of these discussions like pulling teeth for some people?
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The Bibles says to go on to perfection-not that we are perfect--yet.
I guess because people miss it, do we stone them?
Do we cast them aside?
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What?!?! Where did I say to do anything? Where did I say to stone them or cast them aside? This forum has been really bizarre lately lol.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-07-2007, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
So then you AGREE with me. Good grief, why not just say that. Yes we are not allowed to sin nor are we allowed to miss it in prophecy. Why are some of these discussions like pulling teeth for some people?
What?!?! Where did I say to do anything? Where did I say to stone them or cast them aside? This forum has been really bizarre lately lol.
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Yes,I have seen that around here lately.
Case in pont, a certain District, and a certain Evangelist where Borat made a hey day.
I am sure the people are very "aware" of what transpired and are "embarrassed" at the fall out.
Casting aspersions on their "ministry" or "motive" is a disservice to them and this board.
Now before you have a "moo" Cow and say that you never did such a thing, I am not saying you did.
However, that seems to be a little bit of what this forum is coming to some days
Sad.
Yes, this forum has been bizarre lately for sure.
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07-07-2007, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron
Now before you have a "moo" Cow and say that you never did such a thing, I am not saying you did.
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Thank you, though your reply to what I said seemed that is what you were saying. I suppose you meant it as general commentary for everyone else to read. I do that sometimes too
God bless
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-07-2007, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
I don't think anyone is allowed to miss it.
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I agree. If the Spirit is giving the words, how could you have missed unless someone repents, God forgives, and the judgement doesnt' come to pass. ( Jonah and Nineveh.) If God is not giving the words, then don't speak.
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07-07-2007, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
I agree. If the Spirit is giving the words, how could you have missed unless someone repents, God forgives, and the judgement doesnt' come to pass. ( Jonah and Nineveh.) If God is not giving the words, then don't speak.
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Thanks Mizpeh
The bible says there are to be more than one prophet and the others are to judge.
Sorry Ron but NO it is NOT allowed. That is why Paul said what he said
1Co 14:29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said.
1Co 14:30 If a revelation is made to another sitting there, let the first be silent.
1Co 14:31 For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all be encouraged,
1Co 14:32 and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets.
1Co 14:33 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints,
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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