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Old 07-09-2007, 11:25 AM
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The people danced naked before a golden God...
Correction.. LITTLE 'g', friend. LITTLE 'g'.
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:27 AM
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:43 AM
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Brother Strange,
You are highly respected here.
You are a man of experience and discernment.
You have walked in the Spirit for a long time.
You posted your heart and some took exception to some of the things you said.
Then, things escalated. Some folks spoke a little too hastily and vehemently.
Because we're human and still carrying around this old man of flesh, sometimes we do that.
You don't have to justify yourself.
Why not just let it drop?
and let the thread disappear off the "new posts" section into oblivion?
I have little respect for ministers who use a public internet forum to air their accusations against another minister . . . and even less if the accusor doesn't confront the accused face to face.

I don't agree, sir. He made accusations and I want him to back them up. Either that or retract them completely.

It won't drop. Not until it's either proven or retracted. I'll bump 'til I'm banned before this is just dropped and given a pass. I refuse to sit around allowing someone to accuse someone else without proof.

Present the proof or retract it and I'll shut up. Otherwise, grab some Advil.
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Old 07-09-2007, 12:36 PM
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I have little respect for ministers who use a public internet forum to air their accusations against another minister . . . and even less if the accusor doesn't confront the accused face to face.

I don't agree, sir. He made accusations and I want him to back them up. Either that or retract them completely.

It won't drop. Not until it's either proven or retracted. I'll bump 'til I'm banned before this is just dropped and given a pass. I refuse to sit around allowing someone to accuse someone else without proof.

Present the proof or retract it and I'll shut up. Otherwise, grab some Advil.
chaotic,
concerning one who sits by and hears an utterance, what PROOF do you suppose is available?

Has your experience in God been consistently 'proof-enabled'?

If it has, I sure hope you are daily or weekly or at least several times per year seeing devils depart with loud voices and those with palsies and those who are lame be healed.

IMO, we hear the witness of one guy say "sow uncommon seed...reap uncommon harvest"....do we demand PROOF?!?

we hear another guy say, "there is a familar spirit in those words that was also present with Balaam"....and you want PROOF!

What would be the proof that would satisfy your demands?
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Old 07-09-2007, 12:48 PM
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I have little respect for ministers who use a public internet forum to air their accusations against another minister . . . and even less if the accusor doesn't confront the accused face to face.

I don't agree, sir. He made accusations and I want him to back them up. Either that or retract them completely.

It won't drop. Not until it's either proven or retracted. I'll bump 'til I'm banned before this is just dropped and given a pass. I refuse to sit around allowing someone to accuse someone else without proof.

Present the proof or retract it and I'll shut up. Otherwise, grab some Advil.
No one, as far as I know is soliciting your respect...or opinions for that matter.

You want it backed up?

HA!

You would not know a "back up" from a "shack up." (Personal opinion, of course)

But, since I have never called a name at any point in time...and since you are sooooo concerned about the reputation of a certain person...call that certain person and ask him if it is ok for his name to be used on this forum. If it is OK, then you come back with his permission and post his name and making your silly demands that you are making.

Meanwhile, ask him...or any other Prophet (true or false) if he is willing to have his prophecies discussed (failed or true) on this forum. If he says "NO," you then need to recognize the incredible ignorance of your silly demands and THEN SHUT UP. Yes, we can discuss those prophecies if he gives permission to do so.

Meanwhile, who are you talking about? You are waaaaaay our of your league, Mr/Mrs Novice.

Now, put up or shut up with your demands. I will be happy to discuss all of your demands if you get his permission. Meanwhile, I will extend to the man the same Christian courtesy toward him that I am sure that he would extend toward me.
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Old 07-09-2007, 01:11 PM
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You want it backed up? HA! You would not know a "back up" from a "shack up." (Personal opinion, of course)
Wow, such maturity and Godliness.

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But, since I have never called a name at any point in time...and since you are sooooo concerned about the reputation of a certain person...call that certain person and ask him if it is ok for his name to be used on this forum. If it is OK, then you come back with his permission and post his name and making your silly demands that you are making.
You didn't mention a name, true. But you did reveal who it was in a very direct way. I need neither his name nor permission to demand proof of your accusations.

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Meanwhile, ask him...or any other Prophet (true or false) if he is willing to have his prophecies discussed (failed or true) on this forum. If he says "NO," you then need to recognize the incredible ignorance of your silly demands and THEN SHUT UP. Yes, we can discuss those prophecies if he gives permission to do so.
*grin* I've encountered your spirit before... Again, why do I need permission? I'm not interested in his prophecies, true or false. I want proof of the accusations you gave that link him to the Cathedral of Wisdom and that he used WORD FOR WORD the words and philosophies from the Cathedral of Wisdom.

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Meanwhile, who are you talking about? You are waaaaaay our of your league, Mr/Mrs Novice.
How incredibly rude and arrogant. Again, I'm dumbfounded that there are people on here that hold you up in such reverence.

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Now, put up or shut up with your demands. I will be happy to discuss all of your demands if you get his permission. Meanwhile, I will extend to the man the same Christian courtesy toward him that I am sure that he would extend toward me.
Christian courtesy!?! You're showing him Christian courtesy?

You came on to a public internet forum and stabbed him in the back with these baseless and unproven accusations and you call that Christian courtesy?

Good grief, sir! Pretty sad if that's your idea of Christian courtesy.
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Old 07-09-2007, 01:20 PM
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You didn't mention a name, true. But you did reveal who it was in a very direct way.
Well, he did agree to meet with this unnamed person. As long as there was no audience.
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Old 07-09-2007, 01:25 PM
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Well, he did agree to meet with this unnamed person. As long as there was no audience.
Where did he say that? This was mentioned earlier but isn't right.

BS stated that he'd be glad to meet with him in a motel room or at a restaurant . . . but he didn't say whether or not he actually set up such a meeting or if he's even so much as called this minister on the phone to discuss his accusations.

And BS continues to backpeddle on my question of if he did or not, which more times than most means he hasn't spoken with this minister.

Again, show me where he actually stated that he's agreed to meet this minister. Saying you'd be happy to meet someone and actually setting up a meeting is two completely different things.
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Old 07-09-2007, 01:34 PM
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Wow, such maturity and Godliness.
Did I ever say that you were not entitled to your opinions?


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You didn't mention a name, true. But you did reveal who it was in a very direct way. I need neither his name nor permission to demand proof of your accusations.
Make all your silly demands, but I will not discuss the man/woman beyond what I have said without HIS permission. You are rude and incosiderate of him in making your demands. Further discussion of him/her beyond what I have already said would naturally entail examining many prophecies in many churches over a period of time.

You would be wise to drop your demands in the interest of the person that you are trying so hard to defend. You need to shut up about it.


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*grin* I've encountered your spirit before...
Interesting. Just what spirit would that be? I demand an answer.

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Again, why do I need permission?
Because I will not discuss the particular spirit that I judged that night or anything else concerning who is probably a God called Prophet beyond what I've already said except for his permission.

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I'm not interested in his prophecies, true or false.
Why not? If he has a track record of prophesying falsely, would it not follow that he is moved by ANOTHER spirit, thus a false prophet?

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I want proof of the accusations you gave that link him to the Cathedral of Wisdom and that he used WORD FOR WORD the words and philosophies from the Cathedral of Wisdom.
It is obvious that you don't know enough about it to discuss it. You are a total novice in this realm. The person in question is no novice. It is readily apparant to me that he has been down the road with experience.


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How incredibly rude and arrogant. Again, I'm dumbfounded that there are people on here that hold you up in such reverence.
Don't be dumbfound. There is a lot that you do not know.

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Christian courtesy!?! You're showing him Christian courtesy?
Absolutely, without his permission, I will not discuss him any further, neither will I call his name on this forum.

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You came on to a public internet forum and stabbed him in the back with these baseless and unproven accusations and you call that Christian courtesy?
Never stabbed anyone...anywhere or anytime.

Tell us, what is your interpretation of the scriptures given in the first post? Start with the word, "prophesy." Then, end up with the word "judge." Then, instead of your silly, novice like remarks, tell me when and where I "stabbed the man in the back."

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Good grief, sir! Pretty sad if that's your idea of Christian courtesy.
Are you an Apostolic? For how long? Please don't tell me that you are a preacher!
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Old 07-09-2007, 01:39 PM
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Did I ever say that you were not entitled to your opinions?




Make all your silly demands, but I will not discuss the man/woman beyond what I have said without HIS permission. You are rude and incosiderate of him in making your demands. Further discussion of him/her beyond what I have already said would naturally entail examining many prophecies in many churches over a period of time.

You would be wise to drop your demands in the interest of the person that you are trying so hard to defend. You need to shut up about it.




Interesting. Just what spirit would that be? I demand an answer.



Because I will not discuss the particular spirit that I judged that night or anything else concerning who is probably a God called Prophet beyond what I've already said except for his permission.



Why not? If he has a track record of prophesying falsely, would it not follow that he is moved by ANOTHER spirit, thus a false prophet?



It is obvious that you don't know enough about it to discuss it. You are a total novice in this realm. The person in question is no novice. It is readily apparant to me that he has been down the road with experience.




Don't be dumbfound. There is a lot that you do not know.



Absolutely, without his permission, I will not discuss him any further, neither will I call his name on this forum.



Never stabbed anyone...anywhere or anytime.

Tell us, what is your interpretation of the scriptures given in the first post? Start with the word, "prophesy." Then, end up with the word "judge." Then, instead of your silly, novice like remarks, tell me when and where I "stabbed the man in the back."



Are you an Apostolic? For how long? Please don't tell me that you are a preacher!
OK Bro. Strange I will keep trying.

Look at your words here:

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This is truly sad.

We have drifted so far away that we no longer know the voice of the Holy Ghost from the voice of Sorcerer. We no longer know the difference.

Do you also subscribe to the teachings of The Temple of Wisdom as he does?
Is the voice of the Sorcerer mentioned by you here of demonic origin?

If not, since when does the word "Scorcerer" not give the connotation of one who is used to voice demonic words and incantations?
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