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Old 07-27-2007, 02:30 PM
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Which of the OT laws applicable to us today?

Answer: The "Spiritual Law."
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Old 07-27-2007, 04:23 PM
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Which of the OT laws applicable to us today?

Answer: The "Spiritual Law."
Gal 5:18

18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

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And that's it... we are no longer under the law.

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Old 07-27-2007, 04:56 PM
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:23 PM
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None Timmy. Yep, you can cuss, steal, lie, cheat, blasphemy...sin all day and all night long without any thought about repentance...oh wait....Hmmm the bible does say in the NT we have to repent. I wonder what we are supposed to repent of?

Maybe SOME THINGS...in the law...are still sins today. I'll venture to guess that if the NT mentions it being wrong (and it was wrong in the OT), then it's still wrong
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:34 PM
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In late AD 49/early AD 50, there was a council in Jerusalem where the requirements of the Old Testament law were discussed. It was decided by the leaders of th early church how much of the OT law would be required under this new covenant. A letter was issued which covered these requirements. It is found in Acts 15:22-29.
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Old 07-27-2007, 11:12 PM
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None Timmy. Yep, you can cuss, steal, lie, cheat, blasphemy...sin all day and all night long without any thought about repentance...oh wait....Hmmm the bible does say in the NT we have to repent. I wonder what we are supposed to repent of?

Maybe SOME THINGS...in the law...are still sins today. I'll venture to guess that if the NT mentions it being wrong (and it was wrong in the OT), then it's still wrong
just so long as you baptize in the titles.
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:05 AM
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None Timmy. Yep, you can cuss, steal, lie, cheat, blasphemy...sin all day and all night long without any thought about repentance...oh wait....Hmmm the bible does say in the NT we have to repent. I wonder what we are supposed to repent of?

Maybe SOME THINGS...in the law...are still sins today. I'll venture to guess that if the NT mentions it being wrong (and it was wrong in the OT), then it's still wrong
Perhaps that would cover the the "Don'ts", but what about the "Dos"? Tithing, for example. There's controversy there, as the NT doesn't seem to affirm it (Jesus tells the Pharisees they should tithe, but that was during the old covenant). And the NT teaching on giving seems to replace tithing with giving as you see fit. 2 Corinthians 9:7. (According to some, anyway. Like I said, there's controversy!)
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:19 AM
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Perhaps that would cover the the "Don'ts", but what about the "Dos"? Tithing, for example. There's controversy there, as the NT doesn't seem to affirm it (Jesus tells the Pharisees they should tithe, but that was during the old covenant). And the NT teaching on giving seems to replace tithing with giving as you see fit. 2 Corinthians 9:7. (According to some, anyway. Like I said, there's controversy!)
I don't believe the tithing is a new testament practice. How could it be? We clearly don't have the same type of setup, but I think the principle is there.

I Timothy 5:18 "For the scripture saith, thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward."

I believe the scripture you quoted above does take care of giving and the ministry. I don't believe the "tithing" goes to one man. It didn't go to just one man in the OT.
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:38 AM
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I don't believe the tithing is a new testament practice. How could it be? We clearly don't have the same type of setup, but I think the principle is there.

I Timothy 5:18 "For the scripture saith, thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward."

I believe the scripture you quoted above does take care of giving and the ministry. I don't believe the "tithing" goes to one man. It didn't go to just one man in the OT.
See? Controversy. (I agree with you, btw. Hope that doesn't bother you! )
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Speaking about perpetual abominations unto the Lord, one thing I never understood.

There are sins of the OT times that are no longer sins today, yet God does not change? I don't get it, and the argument doesn't make sense or hold water for that matter.

It sounds to me like someone has his pen-knife out trying to carve out a convenient doctrine.
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