Tulsa Report Day 2

George · #1 01-26-2008, 01:15 PM

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All of this talk about being at peace with the UPC sounds good politically,but if it was really true,why are they making their young people break all ties with their friends from other UPC churches?

Interesting comment.That has been a common conversation lately of late.
anyone else know about this or have facts, stories,etc ?

First hand knowledge - several very conservative young people in my relative's church friendship has been cut because they remain in a UPC church.

There was a post on ABN Global by a young man who was crying because his girlfriend broke up with him because he attended a UPC church.

A pastors daughter received a call from a Tulsa bound church youth asking her whose side she was on. The young person informed her if she chose the UPC they could not be friends.

Out of two or three witnesses.....

rgcraig · #2 01-26-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by George

First hand knowledge - several very conservative young people in my relative's church friendship has been cut because they remain in a UPC church.

There was a post on ABN Global by a young man who was crying because his girlfriend broke up with him because he attended a UPC church.

A pastors daughter received a call from a Tulsa bound church youth asking her whose side she was on. The young person informed her if she chose the UPC they could not be friends.

Out of two or three witnesses.....

This is the root of the problem I see hurting more than anything. We can make excuses all day long for the grown-ups, but what are these actions telling the young people!

George · #3 01-26-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

This is the root of the problem I see hurting more than anything. We can make excuses all day long for the grown-ups, but what are these actions telling the young people!

My relative's church has a young person that has been crying at night over the hurt of losing so many friends.

rgcraig · #4 01-26-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by George

My relative's church has a young person that has been crying at night over the hurt of losing so many friends.

This just breaks my heart...............

I know in time things will settle down, but really what in the world does this tell our young people? Not to mention the families that are split over this.

Barb · #5 01-26-2008, 01:30 PM

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This just breaks my heart...............

I know in time things will settle down, but really what in the world does this tell our young people? Not to mention the families that are split over this.

I know of a father and son out West...it is heartbreaking indeed.

StMark · #6 01-26-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by George

My relative's church has a young person that has been crying at night over the hurt of losing so many friends.

Is this coming from the leaders? are they telling their youth to break off?

what are the reasons these kids from WPF churches giving them?

rgcraig · #7 01-26-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by StMark

Is this coming from the leaders? are they telling their youth to break off?

what are the reasons these kids from WPF churches giving them?

Well, it's not coming from the kids!

They'll give them the same reason we use to give for not doing the things we did when growing up - - because my church doesn't believe in it.

StMark · #8 01-26-2008, 01:38 PM

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Well, it's not coming from the kids!

They'll give them the same reason we use to give for not doing the things we did when growing up - - because my church doesn't believe in it.

No,I understand it wouldn't be coming from the kids.

In light of them announcing at Tulsa that they are willing to fellowship with the UPC, why would they be telling their youth not to ??????

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rgcraig · #9 01-26-2008, 01:41 PM

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No,I understand it wouldn't be coming from the kids.

In light of them announcing at Tulsa that they are willing to fellowship with the UPC, why would they be telling their youth not to ??????
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Good question and one that could only be answered by the ones telling their young people that.

What I see is there will be some that feel this way and some that won't and in time they'll have problems within just like UPC does now. As long as there are humans involved there are going to be disagreements and problems.

George · #10 01-26-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by StMark

No,I understand it wouldn't be coming from the kids.

In light of them announcing at Tulsa that they are willing to fellowship with the UPC, why would they be telling their youth not to ??????

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Key word - willing. They are willing to fellowship the UPC if it meets their criteria for fellowship.
Another possiblity. They have received so many phone calls and letters because of not allowing youth to fellowship UPC they are trying to smooth it over. All the talk about coexisting comes across defensive.