Control Freaks Running The WPF??

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

It's funny that I have had to read slurs about uneducated, ignorant, hayseed preachers around here forever, until all of a sudden we have one of the Tulsa men with a degree, and now we are reading about puffed up suits with letters following their name, and how a simple grandmother can do more for God.

Just another item to drop in the file labeled "Things That Make You Go Hmmmm."

Coonskinner,

I'm new here, so I haven't read the posts you refer to.

So, I previously wrote:

A humble grandmother who reads and believes her Bible with a clear God-given understanding can accomplish more than a misguided, puffed-up suit in crocodile shoes with a degree in exegetical theology. On the other hand, there is most definitely nothing wrong with furthering ones knowledge by attending seminary; I just want to be clear that some are easily swayed by simple verbal wordsmithing.

I wholeheartedly support the idea of extensive theological study. My comments were directed toward the idea that just because someone is a smooth talker doesn't mean they are speaking truth. The key word present in my diatribe is "misguided." This was not specifically directed toward the T-6, but a general observation in regard to pure motives versus a misguided agenda.

Shalom.

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by Draw4Tacos

Coonskinner,

I'm new here, so I haven't read the posts you refer to.

So, I previously wrote:

A humble grandmother who reads and believes her Bible with a clear God-given understanding can accomplish more than a misguided, puffed-up suit in crocodile shoes with a degree in exegetical theology. On the other hand, there is most definitely nothing wrong with furthering ones knowledge by attending seminary; I just want to be clear that some are easily swayed by simple verbal wordsmithing.

I wholeheartedly support the idea of extensive theological study. My comments were directed toward the idea that just because someone is a smooth talker doesn't mean they are speaking truth. The key word present in my diatribe is "misguided." This was not specifically directed toward the T-6, but a general observation in regard to pure motives versus a misguided agenda.

Shalom.

He's talking (taking liberties here, CS) about people here attacking the character of men of God on both ends of an educational spectrum because they are too self righteous to not have SOMETHING to complain about.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

I'm glad internet forums weren't around in the 40's.

Seriously, I hear less whining from my 11 year old. And he whines a lot (but he's getting better).

Originally Posted by Jekyll

He's talking (taking liberties here, CS) about people here attacking the character of men of God on both ends of an educational spectrum because they are too self righteous to not have SOMETHING to complain about.

But where would any of us be without Jekyll complaining about the "complainers?" Jekyll rocks!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by pelathais

But where would any of us be without Jekyll complaining about the "complainers?" Jekyll rocks!

A forum for whiners that whine about whiners?

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by embonpoint

One of the most vociferous and repetitious attacks on these men, and conservatives in general, is that they are motivated by a desire to control and a hunger for power. But what real power or control will they wield in the WPF.

These so-called controllers of the WPF do not
License ministers

They do have a membership that includes memberships dues!

Affiliate churches

Well duhhh! Do you think they would get any churches to join them if they had to be affilated?

Have Districts with all their officials

It's just now getting off the ground! Let's check it out in ten years!

Preclude anyone from participation based on affiliation thus the assertion that they are not truly an organization as we know them today.

If they have no wish to be an organization, they could have been much more effective being a sub group of the UPCI.

But their detractors want to kick them out because they held a meeting without permission

Since when did a UPCI pastor need permission to hold a meeting?

Invited ministers without org approval

They used the UPCI mailing list without premission. This mailing list is the property of the UPCI. This meeting was not in the best interest of the UPCI.

Have financial involvement out side the org

???????

I wonder who is interested in controlling whom here?

An interesting question! When they lost control of the UPCI by losing res #4, they took their ball to start a new group which they COULD control!

The answer to your question is obvious!

Thanks for the post!

[embonpoint]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

The answer to your question is obvious!

Thanks for the post!

Well we agree that the answer is obvious.

Its just defining the obvious that seems to give us trouble.

[Jekyll]

I'm glad internet forums weren't around in the 40's.

Seriously, I hear less whining from my 11 year old. And he whines a lot (but he's getting better).

[Sandra]

Had breakfast with Cindy Austin, her brother Robby Mitchell is married to Lisa Godair
.I knew that the Godairs were with this new group but didn't realize he was the head honcho. Cindy said he is the number one guy. She said Robbie just took Jesse Williams church and she doesn't see Robbie leaving the UPC.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Sandra

Had breakfast with Cindy Austin, her brother Robby Mitchell is married to Lisa Godair
.I knew that the Godairs were with this new group but didn't realize he was the head honcho. Cindy said he is the number one guy. She said Robbie just took Jesse Williams church and she doesn't see Robbie leaving the UPC.

It's my understanding there are SIX number one guys.

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

It's my understanding there are SIX number one guys.