At the church I grew up in we had a couple bouts with the law having to be called in... once was a husband and wife who were divorcing due to him being very violent and a drunk... well our nursery was in a building behind the main sanctuary... All the sudden we notice all the ushers run out and then a few min later we hear sirens.. and a few min later he (father) comes in holding the baby... The police came in and were able to get the baby fortunately he didnt have a weapon.. he did however go to the nursery and take the baby by force...
He came back another time with a gun... the ushers were very big men and took him down very fast... not recommended but you hadta see these usher dudes!!!
Very scary but then again our church was right by downtown and the very over populated homeless area and we had a lot of drama all the time due to these 2 factors
At the church I grew up in we had a couple bouts with the law having to be called in... once was a husband and wife who were divorcing due to him being very violent and a drunk... well our nursery was in a building behind the main sanctuary... All the sudden we notice all the ushers run out and then a few min later we hear sirens.. and a few min later he (father) comes in holding the baby... The police came in and were able to get the baby fortunately he didnt have a weapon.. he did however go to the nursery and take the baby by force...
He came back another time with a gun... the ushers were very big men and took him down very fast... not recommended but you hadta see these usher dudes!!!
Very scary but then again our church was right by downtown and the very over populated homeless area and we had a lot of drama all the time due to these 2 factors
I knew of a brother Murray...think it was in Arkansas that was ushering when a gunmen came in to church..
They took him down pretty quick.
But the church in Illinois that is in the news has had this same fued going on between these two families for years according to the news.
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We hosted a funeral once for a kid who had attended Sunday School many years before. In his teen years he joined a gang and was killed playing "Russian Roulette" with a shotgun (don't ask, I have no idea). A local court ruled that his cousin could attend the funeral. The cousin was some sort of notorious gang leader in protective custody. I had to help the sheriff's department map everthing out in advance. We sat the cousin alone with his guards in the balcony.
In the hall behind the balcony were deputies with those little knock-off MP5 machine pistol clones. And then my kids - just toddlers at the time, ended up having to stay upstairs with the deputies. That was about the most hardware that I ever saw in a church before. I was told that there were police snipers around the church, but I didn't see any sign of them. The building itself was ringed by police cars.
Only been in one actual brawl during church. A guy was "shacking up" with this woman he had met there at church. They were by no means "members" of the church, just people who would come around from time to time. One day this fellow comes into church and the head usher, a rather problematic individual himself at times, ask about "the wifey..." This was while the choir was singing. The, uhm, gentleman took offense to the comment and began to throw folding chairs into the congregation. One sister took a chair across the forehead and required hospitalization.
It took about 4 or 5 of us to wrestle the nutcase outside. He beat up one guy pretty good in the scramble. As we wrestled him out the door (the choir never stopped singing!) the pastor was laying hands on him and "casting out Satan..." with no visible effect. We got the guy outside and I was going to call the police but the pastor rebuked me for it. Instead, we prayed for a moment and then allowed the now felonious nutcase back into the church. He joined with the congregation in the pot-luck after service just like he was family. The injured sister received several stitches and was released later that day.
At the church I grew up in we had a couple bouts with the law having to be called in... once was a husband and wife who were divorcing due to him being very violent and a drunk... well our nursery was in a building behind the main sanctuary... All the sudden we notice all the ushers run out and then a few min later we hear sirens.. and a few min later he (father) comes in holding the baby... The police came in and were able to get the baby fortunately he didnt have a weapon.. he did however go to the nursery and take the baby by force...
He came back another time with a gun... the ushers were very big men and took him down very fast... not recommended but you hadta see these usher dudes!!!
Very scary but then again our church was right by downtown and the very over populated homeless area and we had a lot of drama all the time due to these 2 factors
we had something similar happen with a situation where a father came to get his kids after a church service... a lot of mixed communication and a fight broke out among the family of the wife... yep, pretty interesting all right.. the law called in and the dad spent the night in Jail... not a pretty sight... I wasn't there, oh, but believe me, I heard all about it in great detail..
We've had some interesting things over the years... police have been called. It's never been a crazy church member or feuding though.
(There was that girl who went up into our balcony and took her top off... thankfully I wasn't praise singing that night)
One of my former pastors told me that many years ago, when he was young, that in another church in our city people came to blows... saints. Not sure if the police were called though.
Why in the world would you want to be there StMark?
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Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
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