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Old 07-13-2009, 06:17 PM
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Re: Baptism from God's Perspective

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Nothing you can do will cause God to see you as his. Only what GOD can do TO YOU will cause you to be his. He chooses whomever he wills, we don't choose him unless he has chosen to drag us toward him, causing us to choose him.


So, you wont even be 'saved' until you die. But if you are predestined, you are ordained to salvation. 'Salvation' is a life-long process. The english 'Saved' is the greek word 'Sozo', which means to be safely carried from one point to another, remaining preserved (in this case, spiritually).

Also, you say you've 'confessed' Christ. 'Confess' is the Greek 'homologeo' (homo - same, logos-word - To speak the same words as, or to be in the same words with (follow commandments, which are anything Christ said with an imperative mood (an order) - such as 'Follow me')). So, to confess Christ, you have to speak the same words as him and follow his commandments. That includes all the hard things like calling down false teachers when you know they're lying no matter how much it may hurt your life or your standard of living (as Christ did to the Pharisees), and having to bear your cross to be his disciple, etc., etc.... WHICH YOU WILL DO, IF YOU ARE HIS, because God will IMPOSE it upon you!
Interesting opinions here. Calvin'sPredestination, and seeming contradictions: I have no action/responsibility for my salvation, only if He calls me (fatalism), but later, IF you confess, you will follow his commandments. We will do (I assume automatically like a robot) because He will impose it.
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