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Old 02-27-2009, 04:08 PM
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Bro you could come with me to chuch we would probley both get kicked out once they found out about your struggle but thats ok they don't matter anyway.. God is the only one that matters...
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Old 02-27-2009, 04:10 PM
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I don't know. . .once I get up on that B3 organ, they might want to keep me.
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Old 02-27-2009, 04:11 PM
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Right now I'm so used to rejection that for someone to actually want to talk with me is foreign. But you know God and I have wonderful chats over a great cup of maxwell house each morning.
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Old 02-27-2009, 04:20 PM
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Right now I'm so used to rejection that for someone to actually want to talk with me is foreign. But you know God and I have wonderful chats over a great cup of maxwell house each morning.
Sorry Jeff you just blew it! I coulda been friends until you said Maxwell House! Maybe if you convert to Starbucks you can still be my friend!
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Old 02-27-2009, 04:22 PM
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Maxwell is about $5 a can. Starbucks is just outside my budget bud. Jesus and me love max.
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Old 02-27-2009, 04:24 PM
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Sorry Jeff you just blew it! I coulda been friends until you said Maxwell House! Maybe if you convert to Starbucks you can still be my friend!
I happen to think that all coffee drinkers are druggies (caffeine) and headed to the pit!
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Old 02-27-2009, 04:42 PM
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Sorry Jeff you just blew it! I coulda been friends until you said Maxwell House! Maybe if you convert to Starbucks you can still be my friend!
Starbucks, phooey!

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Bro you could come with me to chuch we would probley both get kicked out once they found out about your struggle but thats ok they don't matter anyway.. God is the only one that matters...
That's what I call ministry...
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Old 02-27-2009, 04:12 PM
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I don't know the apostolic/upc church is pretty judgemental the only reason I attend one is because my wife was rasied UPC and she teaches sunday school
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Jeff, I appreciate your honesty and believe you are sincere in your desire to know the truth regarding this subject. I think if we are honest with ourselves and with others, we will all have to admit that we struggle in some area of our lives. I know I certainly do. But, what helps us to overcome whatever it might be is honesty. We have to be honest.

To struggle with something (whatever it might be) is not a sin. Its when we give in to that thing that we have transgressed the law of God. Paul speaks of his struggle between his spirit and his flesh in Romans 7. And thats exactly what it is. Our spirit, touched by the Holy Spirit, desires to serve and please God. But our flesh, subject to our fallen nature, is at war with our spirit. Drawing nigh to God empowers us spiritually, enabling us to overcome fleshly desires.

What we have to be honest about is whether or not our sin can be categorized with the "lusts of the flesh" listed by Paul in Gal. 5:19-21. Specific to the subject of this thread: Is homosexuality a work of the flesh? If we admit that, in fact, it is, then we have to admit we need to shun that sin. We need the Lord's grace to help us overcome that sin.

Does God hate homosexuality more than he does... say... hypocrisy? I wouldn't think so. In fact, I would say hypocrisy is THE sin God hates more than any. The Bible has more to say against hypocrisy than it does about any other sin. Thats where honesty comes into play. And God rewards honesty with answers- answers he has already given you. In fact, I would step a little further out by saying this: You already know God's answer to the sin question. I suspect, you've grown tired of the struggle and are now being tempted to justify, rather than continue to fight, your struggling. Don't give up the fight, brother. Don't believe the lie that God will somehow excuse sin. Whatever it is...it is still a work of the flesh, and to underscore how God feels about the works of the flesh, I'll leave you with HIS Words: "....they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God."
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