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Old 06-04-2008, 08:25 AM
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Don't forget folks, if you don't vote for Obama that means you are racist. (we now have the ultimate race card being played)
I'm just NOT voting for the 50% white side of him - - is that better?
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Old 06-04-2008, 08:53 AM
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Don't forget folks, if you don't vote for Obama that means you are racist. (we now have the ultimate race card being played)
Disagree. However, Obama has for the most part not played this card either ... until it became an issue that he did not bring but had to address ... i.e. his INCLUSIVE race speech.

America is growing in this area ... as evident by this historic nomination ... 45 years after Dr. King's speech for a color-blind society.

Truth is he's where he is because whites have voted for him.
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Old 06-04-2008, 09:07 AM
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Disagree. However, Obama has for the most part not played this card either ... until it became an issue that he did not bring but had to address ... i.e. his INCLUSIVE race speech.

America is growing in this area ... as evident by this historic nomination ... 45 years after Dr. King's speech for a color-blind society.

Truth is he's where he is because whites have voted for him.
Obama doesn't have to play the race card himself. His surrogates do it for him. The Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons, etc.

Remember the threats that there would be riots in the streets if Hillary got the nominiation rather than Obama?
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Obama doesn't have to play the race card himself. His surrogates do it for him. The Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons, etc.

Remember the threats that there would be riots in the streets if Hillary got the nominiation rather than Obama?
What? Jackson has been quiet during this campaign ... and Sharpton has been in the Clinton camp.

Actually Sharpton has been vocal against Obama for most of the campaign.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/anderso...NROE18.article

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04292008...ama_108577.htm

and now is keeping his support for Obama SILENT.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...es_keepin.html


You listen to too much talk radio, CC. It's evident in your political postings.

I'm a Rush Head .... but I won't regurgitate them verbatim. Nor will I become a clone.
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Old 06-04-2008, 09:18 AM
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What? Jackson has been quiet during this campaign ... and Sharpton has been in the Clinton camp.

Actually Sharpton has been vocal against Obama for most of the campaign.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/anderso...NROE18.article

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04292008...ama_108577.htm

and now is keeping his support for Obama SILENT.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...es_keepin.html


You listen to too much talk radio, CC. It's evident in your political postings.

I'm a Rush Head .... but I won't regurgitate them verbatim. Nor become become a clone.
My dear DA I have been a political junkie since the age of 14. I was a card carrying Republican at age 16, two years before I could vote.

I was involved in all of these matters long before talk radio. I resent your statement that I am some mind numbed robot regurgitating talk radio talking points. I was neck deep in policy wonk debates probably before you were born. I was arguing welfare policy and other government programs with my High Scool government teachers in the 9th grade.
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Obama doesn't have to play the race card himself. His surrogates do it for him. The Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons, etc.

Remember the threats that there would be riots in the streets if Hillary got the nominiation rather than Obama?
sharpton and jackson are not obama's surrogates by any stretch of the imagination. the only people who played the race card were the white cracker clintons. obama only responded, reluctantly, to their and their surrogate's charges. sharpton and jackson are the past and they know it. they just play to the old school crowd and get their amens and speaking fees and milk the cow until they're all dead. very few people below the age of forty take them seriously. obama conncects most effectively with an entirely different generation than sharpton and jackson, one that is less segregated and more open to racially inclusion than the older generations.

i'm a former ditto head.
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sharpton and jackson are not obama's surrogates by any stretch of the imagination. the only people who played the race card where the white cracker clintons. obama only responded, reluctantly, to their and their surrogate's charges. sharpton and jackson are the past and they know it. they just play to the old school crowd and get their amens and speaking fees and milk the cow until they're all dead. very few people below the age of forty take them seriously. obama conncects most effectively with an entirely different generation than sharpton and jackson, one that is less segregated and more open to racially inclusion than the older generations.

Riots in the streets? Really? Why would there be riots, CC?
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sharpton and jackson are not obama's surrogates by any stretch of the imagination. the only people who played the race card were the white cracker clintons. obama only responded, reluctantly, to their and their surrogate's charges. sharpton and jackson are the past and they know it. they just play to the old school crowd and get their amens and speaking fees and milk the cow until they're all dead. very few people below the age of forty take them seriously. obama conncects most effectively with an entirely different generation than sharpton and jackson, one that is less segregated and more open to racially inclusion than the older generations.

i'm a former ditto head.
I agree with a lot of what you say here.

While I don't think Obama himself will play the race card I do believe he is presenting himself as something he is not. He wants to appear as mainstream and a "unifier" when his past as a liberal activist in Chicago proves otherwise.

You don't sit and listen to the garbage his pastor spewed for 20 years and not leave if you are "mainstream" and not a radical.

Did you hear his church last Sunday cheering on that crazy RC priest as he called Hillary a white supremicist? Is that a "mainstream" group of people for Obama to have aligned himself with for the past 20 years?

Obama hides his extreme left wing agenda behind great oratory that does inspire and catches the imagination of young people and shallow mush heads who don't look beneath the surface.

At the end of the day he not only is the most left leaning canidate since George McGovern to run for President but he is also the least experience.

It is mind blowing that either party would nominate a canidate with only two years experience in the Senate and a few years as a state legislator before that.
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Don't forget folks, if you don't vote for Obama that means you are racist. (we now have the ultimate race card being played)
I don't think anyone is a racist if they don't vote for Obama. I will concede, I think that a lot of people who won't vote for him are going to do so because they are racists. This will make those who vote against Obama based on the issues have to defend themselves from being labeled racists.
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Old 06-04-2008, 08:31 AM
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Well, we have had a VP that didn't know how to spell and now a "possible" President that doesn't know how many states he will be serving. Don't they teach GEOGRAPHY and HISTORY anymore in school?
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