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Old 06-04-2008, 07:46 AM
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Re: Barak Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination

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Because we have too few real America loving Americans left in America. These are people who come here to reap the benefits but never really pledge their allegiance to our country..now these people are voting. The thing I can't understand, there are "Christians" who stand up for Obama.

If we knowingly vote for a hard core liberal will we be accountable for the death of the millions of infants that will be killed as well as the rejection of Isareal plus many other things that may happen. Just a thought.
People will make their own decisions, regardless of a presidents do or don'ts. Voting for Obama is not a pledge to kill of thousands or regect Isreal, it simple voting for someone whom you agree with on most points and can follow as a leader. I am sure there things McCain has done and/or will do things that will fly in the face of Christiandom....too many assume just because he is republican that he is poised in the right seat for all Christians. Give me someone who is true to himself over someone who can't and I will vote for him any day.
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Old 06-04-2008, 08:13 AM
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Don't forget folks, if you don't vote for Obama that means you are racist. (we now have the ultimate race card being played)
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Don't forget folks, if you don't vote for Obama that means you are racist. (we now have the ultimate race card being played)
I'm just NOT voting for the 50% white side of him - - is that better?
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Old 06-04-2008, 08:31 AM
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Well, we have had a VP that didn't know how to spell and now a "possible" President that doesn't know how many states he will be serving. Don't they teach GEOGRAPHY and HISTORY anymore in school?
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People will make their own decisions, regardless of a presidents do or don'ts. Voting for Obama is not a pledge to kill of thousands or regect Isreal, it simple voting for someone whom you agree with on most points and can follow as a leader. I am sure there things McCain has done and/or will do things that will fly in the face of Christiandom....too many assume just because he is republican that he is poised in the right seat for all Christians. Give me someone who is true to himself over someone who can't and I will vote for him any day.
Yep.

This idea that voting for Obama is unChristian ... and the attempt to spiritualize this with end-prophecy ... hail Mary prayers ... and other comments in this thread ... such as "national suicides, dumb", etc. ..

is is what at times makes some Evangelicals and Fundamentalist seem extremist to the general population. Do we believe in the Bill of Rights, or not?

The world is not ending ... America has the backbone and, skeletal, and exoskeletal structure and thick epedermis to endure a presidency of a NON- WASPish leader ... I hope.

Long live the Constitution!!
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Don't forget folks, if you don't vote for Obama that means you are racist. (we now have the ultimate race card being played)
Disagree. However, Obama has for the most part not played this card either ... until it became an issue that he did not bring but had to address ... i.e. his INCLUSIVE race speech.

America is growing in this area ... as evident by this historic nomination ... 45 years after Dr. King's speech for a color-blind society.

Truth is he's where he is because whites have voted for him.
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Old 06-04-2008, 09:05 AM
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Yep.

This idea that voting for Obama is unChristian ... and the attempt to spiritualize this with end-prophecy ... hail Mary prayers ... and other comments in this thread ... such as "national suicides, dumb", etc. ..

is is what at times makes some Evangelicals and Fundamentalist seem extremist to the general population. Do we believe in the Bill of Rights, or not?

The world is not ending ... America has the backbone and, skeletal, and exoskeletal structure to endure a presidency of a NON- WASPish leader ... I hope.

Long live the Constitution!!
Voting for a canidate who opposes partial birth abortion vs one who approves of it is IMPORTANT. I don't care if the rest of the world thinks we are "extemist".

I see them as "extremist" promoting gay marriage, abortion, etc.
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Old 06-04-2008, 09:07 AM
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Disagree. However, Obama has for the most part not played this card either ... until it became an issue that he did not bring but had to address ... i.e. his INCLUSIVE race speech.

America is growing in this area ... as evident by this historic nomination ... 45 years after Dr. King's speech for a color-blind society.

Truth is he's where he is because whites have voted for him.
Obama doesn't have to play the race card himself. His surrogates do it for him. The Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons, etc.

Remember the threats that there would be riots in the streets if Hillary got the nominiation rather than Obama?
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Well, . . . Obama getting elected might push the republicans to get their act together. I highly doubt he can get elected though. There is just to much to overcome and the seniors like McCain.
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