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09-08-2011, 12:18 PM
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Re: Docetism
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
As a habit I do not post here at time I do lurk however I was alerted of the discussion concerning me so I came on to respond.
1. I have no idea what this guy is talking about?
2. I have NEVER taught the divine flesh doctrine I believe it is heresy.
3. The Bible NOT I teaches Mary concieved of the Holy Ghost so whatever the male normally produces for conception to occur was provided by the Spirit says Matthew & Luke. She concieved as any normal woman concieves without the aid of a human. Thus as she was the mother and God was the Father of the child.
4. Jesus was 100% man and 100% God that is the doctrine of the incanrnation.
On a side note most of you folks don't attend Apostolic churches and despise Apostolic doctrine so why not change your name?
Some are friends from the FCF days your demise from those days are sad. On that forum I was clearly and unshamed Apostolic and remain so today.
Just wanted to clear this matter up.
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That is exactly how I understand it. We're actually in agreement! Devine Flesh actually teaches that Jesus had NO DNA from His mother, that Mary was a mere artificial womb for Him.
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09-08-2011, 02:35 PM
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Re: Docetism
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
That is exactly how I understand it. We're actually in agreement! Devine Flesh actually teaches that Jesus had NO DNA from His mother, that Mary was a mere artificial womb for Him.
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which contradicts scruipture. Jesus is a direct decendent of David
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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09-08-2011, 03:55 PM
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Re: Docetism
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
whatever the male normally produces for conception to occur was provided by the Spirit
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So you do believe that there was a divine sperm cell. Thanks for replying.
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09-08-2011, 04:14 PM
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Re: Docetism
God made Eve from Adam without a sperm cell...was she any less human?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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09-08-2011, 04:18 PM
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Re: Docetism
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
God made Eve from Adam without a sperm cell...was she any less human?
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A man contributes a sperm cell. No? What you are saying goes more along with tAquila's thought.
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09-08-2011, 04:22 PM
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Re: Docetism
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Originally Posted by houston
A man contributes a sperm cell. No? What you are saying goes more along with tAquila's thought.
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Adam contributed a rib not a sperm cell.
What Im saying is God did not have to create a sperm cell anymore than he did to make Eve from Adam's rib
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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09-08-2011, 04:30 PM
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Re: Docetism
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Adam contributed a rib not a sperm cell.
What Im saying is God did not have to create a sperm cell anymore than he did to make Eve from Adam's rib
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Then we is on the same page.
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09-08-2011, 05:48 PM
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Re: Docetism
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So you do believe that there was a divine sperm cell. Thanks for replying.
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If you are saying the sperm came from the Divine then yes but if you are saying the sperm cell itself was divine I say NO! God created the whatever that joined with Mary it was human made by the Divine. The same Divine that created Adam(who wasn't divine in human nature)created the whatever was was placed in Mary's womb. Jesus was the BEGOTTEN Son of God that means God begat Him. This is NOT divine flesh teaching but just the opposite. Mary was indeed His Mother.
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09-08-2011, 05:59 PM
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Re: Docetism
If there was a sperm cell, it was divine or it was human. Divine, Jesus would be half god. Human, Jesus is just a man.
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09-08-2011, 06:22 PM
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Re: Docetism
Bro Epley, Thanks for replying. Not looking for an argument, but for understnding. I apologize for misrepresenting your views. The convo that I remembered goes back to nfcf, and for some reason I thought it was you. Again, thanks for replying.
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