Had the Bush Administration compiled witnesses and evidence for a fair trial when these “suspects” were originally incarcerated and then tried them under the civilian governmental authorities in their respective nations, as they were supposed to (remember these are official military forces, they’re civilians), we wouldn’t have this problem now would we?
If the administration would have illegally incarcerated you with 20 others (10 of which were actual threats) we’d have to act to give all of you due process. This long after the fact we’d have trouble building a case against anyone, so we’d most likely have to let you and the 20 others go. Would you rather the government just lock you and the 20 others up and throw away the key? Welcome to Bush’s mess. If we find that we are bound to legally set these men free, and some of them are indeed threats…Bush and all his worshippers are to blame.
Exactly right. We can't rewind the clock and fix their mess.
If evidence had been gathered and forensic work done when these suspects were caught, we'd have a chance at convicting them. Instead, we got a bungled mess that 6 years later is going to be very hard to prove even against the 15 or 20 who actually did something worthy of incarceration.
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Here you plainly claim that the U.S. is giving "$900 million for the Hamas" which most honest people would know was completely ludicrous.
Then as your source of fact, you point to an article in which Hillary Clinton plainly and unequivocally states that Hamas won't touch of any of it.
Which is it? You're the one telling Aquilla he should do his research and apparently you didn't do yours very thoroughly. You're giving the impression that you play loosely with the facts to get across your agenda.
News flash Hamas runs Gaza.
were you thinking buddhists or some other "peacekeepers' run it?
The United States wants Abbas' PA to play a central role in the reconstruction effort in Gaza, hoping this will increase its influence in the Hamas stronghold. Washington is also putting pressure on other donors to bolster the Palestinian Authority. Hamas ousted Fatah from Gaza in a bloody 2007 coup.
TEL AVIV, Israel – Hamas is "very happy" with a pledge this week from the Obama administration to provide $900 million in aid for rebuilding the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip, a spokesman from the Islamist organization told WND.
"We are very happy with this decision," said Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum, speaking by cell phone from Gaza. "In the first place, this money will go toward reconstructing efforts."
Barhoum said he expects the money to be tightly controlled. He said the funds are likely to be delineated to the Palestinian Authority and to the United Nations Relief and Work Agency, or UNWRA, which administers aid to millions of Palestinian "refugees" in the Gaza Strip and West Bank.
Hamas has a close relationship with UNWRA; the agency openly employs a large number of Hamas members, including some of the group's most senior terrorists.
Kinda like saying you will give money to rebuuild Gaza but none goes to Muslims.
News flash Hamas runs Gaza.
were you thinking buddhists or some other "peacekeepers' run it?
The United States wants Abbas' PA to play a central role in the reconstruction effort in Gaza, hoping this will increase its influence in the Hamas stronghold. Washington is also putting pressure on other donors to bolster the Palestinian Authority. Hamas ousted Fatah from Gaza in a bloody 2007 coup.
TEL AVIV, Israel – Hamas is "very happy" with a pledge this week from the Obama administration to provide $900 million in aid for rebuilding the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip, a spokesman from the Islamist organization told WND.
"We are very happy with this decision," said Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum, speaking by cell phone from Gaza. "In the first place, this money will go toward reconstructing efforts."
Barhoum said he expects the money to be tightly controlled. He said the funds are likely to be delineated to the Palestinian Authority and to the United Nations Relief and Work Agency, or UNWRA, which administers aid to millions of Palestinian "refugees" in the Gaza Strip and West Bank.
Hamas has a close relationship with UNWRA; the agency openly employs a large number of Hamas members, including some of the group's most senior terrorists.
Kinda like saying you will give money to rebuuild Gaza but none goes to Muslims.
The Liberals are sure gullible.
Wow, you must be really connected to the reconstruction of Gaza. You apparently have more details about who will control the money than the Secretary of State of the United States.
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Wow, you must be really connected to the reconstruction of Gaza. You apparently have more details about who will control the money than the Secretary of State of the United States.
You need to do a little reading. I recall when My daughter were involved with issues in sudan and the Muslim unit there. Sudan Muslims snagged christian girls, killed the parents and sold them as sex slaves. In tracing human aid, the food and money trail always gets in the hands of the authorities. They use it for their friends, fellow muslims. Israel has the same problem.
In 2007 an average of 500 trucks a day entered Gaza with food and supplies. In comparison, yesterday, just 36 humanitarian trucks were allowed access to Gaza. With almost the entire population of 1.5 million Gazans dependent on humanitarian assistance, it is obvious that the incoming aid is not even remotely adequate.
Israel whom the democrats seem to hate never seem to get a clue that gaza is totally supplied by the Jews. They use all they can for weapons and do not build farms and raise their own supplies.
Now the Hamas keep shooting at israel and Israel keeps sending more supplies.
The dollar slid as much as 1.3 percent against the euro within 10 minutes of news accounts of Geithner’s remarks. The U.S. currency was down 0.6 percent at $1.3553 as of 12:31 p.m. in New York.
When Obama's monkey talks, people listen. it is not good.
Today the immature man had another recommendatio to be one of his deputies withdraw.
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Frank Brosens, a hedge fund manager who was Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner’s choice to run the office overseeing the $700 billion bank bailout program, withdrew his name from consideration.
Im not going to get into another fight about this subject today. (you caught me in an unusually kind mood)
but anyone who thinks GWB should be tried is off their rocker.
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anyone who thinks Obama is doing a good job is crazy.
Certified lunaTIKS
i WAS POSTING IN sEPTEMBER AND oCTOBER THAT THE MASSIVE DROP IN oIL PRICES AND INTERST RATES WERE IN NORMAL TIMES EXCESSIVE AND WOULD LEAD TO RAPID GROWTH. aT THE SAME TIME, THE CHILDREN PLAYING IN THE WHITEHOUSE ARE SCARY. bANKS ARE UNWILLING TO LOAN AND BORROWERS ARE UNWILLING TO BORROW MONEY BECAUSE OBAMA WANTS TO COME IN WITH HIS WEEKLY POWER GRABS AND MANIPULATIONS.
OOOPS
The global economy is so incredibly distrustfull of these children and the lack of mature leadership. The One wants to punish growth and success by severe taxation.
Only thing he is doing right if you want dead babies is expanding his abortion reach with money and resources.
Im not going to get into another fight about this subject today. (you caught me in an unusually kind mood)
but anyone who thinks GWB should be tried is off their rocker.
and
anyone who thinks Obama is doing a good job is crazy.
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The NYT reports that Bernie Madoff has offered to do 10,000 hours of community service as an under secretary in the Treasury Department of Tim Geithner in lieu of spending time in another federal department.
Gethner and Madooff are very creative with numbers.
Wow, you must be really connected to the reconstruction of Gaza. You apparently have more details about who will control the money than the Secretary of State of the United States.
The co-founder of the Arab group in question, Columbia University professor Rashid Khalidi, also has held a fundraiser for Obama. Khalidi is a harsh critic of Israel, has made statements supportive of Palestinian terror and reportedly has worked on behalf of the Palestine Liberation Organization while it was involved in anti-Western terrorism and was labeled by the State Department as a terror group.
In 2001, the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based nonprofit that describes itself as a group helping the disadvantaged, provided a $40,000 grant to the Arab American Action Network, or AAAN, for which Khalidi's wife, Mona, serves as president. The Fund provided a second grant to the AAAN for $35,000 in 2002.
.I suspect routing thru the UN will of course have the standard UN scandel moneys removed and then the UN can have their terrorist friends in the strip deal with the rest.
[B]Can you explain the slaughter of innocent unborn babies by the same clan? Do they get a fair trial?
Coadie…women abort babies…not Democrats. Besides some of the highest abortion rates on earth have been found in South America in Catholic countries where abortion was illegal. Please note: this is based largely on maternal morbidity. Most likely if all cases were reported the abortion rates would be even higher. The lowest abortion rates on earth can be found in Belgium where abortion is legal. Abortion’s legality doesn’t greatly impact the abortion rate of a country. If you want to reduce the abortion rate support charities and programs that assist women in crisis pregnancies and provide education and birth control.
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Obama and his cult of killing unborn babies seems to desparately grab at this to fake moral high ground.
Abortion card, abortion card, abortion card. Obama has never ordered an abortion, neither has any other Democrat. Therefore it’s a lie to propose that they are responsible for the choices of individual women throughout the country that they do not even know. Obama and Pro-Choice Democrats have simply decided to leave that choice in the hands of individual women…essentially washing the government’s hands of the issue. Now individual women make these life and death decisions. Now, we’ve had one of the strongest Republican Administrations in office that we’ve ever had. Republicans controlled Congress. In addition 7 out of 9 justices were appointed by Republicans. And guess what….nothing has changed. Nothing. Not a thing. All they are doing Coadie is manipulating your religious convictions to get your vote. That’s all. There isn’t a Republican or Democrat in office who sincerely wants this issue resolved or put back into government hands. It’s probably best for all involved to leave this decision in the hands of individual women.
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You are not bright enough to understand if a spy gets info as an informant, and fingers one of these terrorists, bring the informant out ruins the spy informant access to information.
C’mon Coadie. Most of these prisoners were rounded up in raids or street sweeps conducted by United States military forces. Very few were targeted by spies or secret operations, if any. Most of these are not even members of Al Qaeda.
Sorry I had to repeat this. Also Obama has done nothing on gitmo. Nothing.
You fell for that also? NOTHING except talk. [/QUOTE]
Don’t you realize that there is a virtual army of attorneys reviewing international case law trying to sort out a way to resolve this situation as we speak? That’s going to take some time. It sounds like you want him to just let them out on the streets of Florida. Which is it Coadie???
Obama isn’t even 6 months into his first term…Gitmo is currently under legal review to find the proper legal actions to take. It’s going to take some time. Especially if you want it done right. But, like your typical conservative ideologue…you don’t care if it’s done right or not…that’s why we have this problem.
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He has shoveled a lot of money onto abortion. Slaughter of the innocent unborn and damaging to the mothers.
Bro…that money is given to agencies that provide abortions…but these agencies also provide gynecological services, pre and post natal testing and services, and other health related services. It’s not money issued specifically for abortions. In addition, as said above…individual women choose abortions; neither President Bush, the Republican Congress, President Obama, or the Democratic Congress have forced a single woman to abort. Frankly, as long as we allow choice…the government’s hands are clean. The moral responsibility for abortion rests on the individual women who choose abortion.
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If you can explain how a "witness" terrorist can be served a supoena for a trial of another terrorist, tell Obama. I suspect you actually thing Osama would answer a summons to witness also. It doesn't work that way. ERemember the case of a "driver" that was charged? He was driving a vehicle for an alqueda officail. They claimed he was innocent. Of course he had been trained in terroirst acts and service also.
You’re wacked bro. That’s not what this procedure is about. That’s also not how anyone plans on dealing with this. Do you realize that we brought the terrorists behind the first WTC bombing to justice through international law enforcement measures? We even brought the perpetrators of the U.S.S. Cole bombing to justice using international law enforcement measures. These individuals should have been turned over to the Iraqi authority (that we practically put in power) or the Afghani authority (which we also practically put into power) after being arrested. This is an issue that should be being dealt with overseas in a court of law.
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Go ahead an support "tthe illegally incarcerated" claim.
Typical leftist chatter.
Coadie…this isn’t left against right. This is an issue of human rights and law & justice. Last I heard conservatives cared about these principles too. I guess I was wrong.
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