How easy is it to Lose Salvation? - Page 5

Truthseeker · #41 02-03-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMasterMind

Yes

So a child molester can still go to heaven?

Praxeas · #42 02-03-2011, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Charnock

What do you believe?

Eternal Security, or Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God?

I don't know how easy it is but I do not believe in Eternal Security. I also do not believe in a capricious God who can take away someone's salvation on a whim

notofworks · #43 02-03-2011, 07:25 PM

After wrestling with the concepts of "Eternal Security" with an open and honest heart and setting aside the old mentality that if I didn't "pray through" every 15 minutes or so, I would go instantly to hell if I were suddenly hit by a truck, I've arrived at a personal conclusion that while we can certainly walk away from our salvation, it can never be taken away.

Austin · #44 02-03-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Charnock

What do you believe?

Eternal Security, or Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God?

Philippians Chapter 1. verse 6, Being confident of this very thing,that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ.

RandyWayne · #45 02-03-2011, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

After wrestling with the concepts of "Eternal Security" with an open and honest heart and setting aside the old mentality that if I didn't "pray through" every 15 minutes or so, I would go instantly to hell if I were suddenly hit by a truck, I've arrived at a personal conclusion that while we can certainly walk away from our salvation, it can never be taken away.

I would agree with that. Just like people speculating on the "unforgivable sin" and wondering just how bad it is. I believe it is unforgivable because the person is in a state where he simply refuses to ask forgiveness. If you DO ask forgiveness or even have the ability to do so, you haven't committed it. I used to live in abject fear of this and wondered if I was eternally lost because of some doubt or questioning of the pastor (reinforced by stories he would tell to prop up his authority).

Socialite · #46 02-03-2011, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin

Philippians Chapter 1. verse 6, Being confident of this very thing,that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ.

Shondo!

rgcraig · #47 02-03-2011, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

After wrestling with the concepts of "Eternal Security" with an open and honest heart and setting aside the old mentality that if I didn't "pray through" every 15 minutes or so, I would go instantly to hell if I were suddenly hit by a truck, I've arrived at a personal conclusion that while we can certainly walk away from our salvation, it can never be taken away.

Agree with this --

notofworks · #48 02-03-2011, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I would agree with that. Just like people speculating on the "unforgivable sin" and wondering just how bad it is. I believe it is unforgivable because the person is in a state where he simply refuses to ask forgiveness. If you are ABLE to ask forgiveness or even have the ability to do so, you haven't committed it. I used to live in abject fear of this and wondered if I was eternally lost because of some doubt or questioning of the pastor (reinforced by stories he would tell to prop up his authority).

I can't say I got a whole heck of a lot out of Bible School....much of which was my fault, not theirs.....but one of the most monumental moments of my spiritual journey was the day Dan Segraves taught about this very thing. Jesus said, "He that comes to the Father, I will not cast out" and Bro. Segraves said, "This picture that has been painted of the altar call countdown or God will be finished with you is a lie!!!", and he would yell it. "As long as you have the ability to call upon God, He will always have the ability to respond!"

There are no words to describe the relief I felt. As an 18-year-old who had never drank, smoked, no drugs, a virgin, about as well-behaved as you can get at that age, I was still often convinced that I had sinned away my grace, because of the scary sermons we often had to endure.

To suddenly realize that God wasn't counting down my chances, but was instead, simply waiting for me to turn to Him......WOW!!!

RandyWayne · #49 02-03-2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

I can't say I got a whole heck of a lot out of Bible School....much of which was my fault, not theirs.....but one of the most monumental moments of my spiritual journey was the day Dan Segraves taught about this very thing. Jesus said, "He that comes to the Father, I will not cast out" and Bro. Segraves said, "This picture that has been painted of the altar call countdown or God will be finished with you is a lie!!!", and he would yell it. "As long as you have the ability to call upon God, He will always have the ability to respond!"

There are no words to describe the relief I felt. As an 18-year-old who had never drank, smoked, no drugs, a virgin, about as well-behaved as you can get at that age, I was still often convinced that I had sinned away my grace, because of the scary sermons we often had to endure.

To suddenly realize that God wasn't counting down my chances, but was instead, simply waiting for me to turn to Him......WOW!!!

As Carmen sang "The desire is the confirmation, the destination is there" spoke to me at this time on this very thing, at a time I needed to hear it.

Cindy · #50 02-03-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin

Philippians Chapter 1. verse 6, Being confident of this very thing,that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ.