How easy is it to Lose Salvation?

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by crakjak

8 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,”[a] you do well; 9 but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,”[b] also said, “Do not murder.”[c]Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty. 13 For judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment.

So, you prefer to be under the law??? You must understand the scripture not just be able to post it.

I choose mercy and "the law of liberty", that TRIUMPHS over judgment, "...for judgment without mercy is to the one who has shown NO mercy..." This is why we must be very careful about judging, that is God's preview!

nice context... You are under the law of christ which is the royal law. To love is to have mercy and fulfill his law.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by MrMasterMind

Grace is NOT God's power, it is His bestowing of undeserved mercy!!!

Then your theology is you are totally out of covenant every time you commit a sin, (regardless of degree) and remain that way until full repentance?

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

nice context... You are under the law of christ which is the royal law. To love is to have mercy and fulfill his law.

Luke2447 have you ever stumbled in one point? 10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.

BT

[MrMasterMind]

Luke at least learn one thing. There are not degrees of covenant, you are either in covenant or you are not, and a breech of covenant does NOT automatically void it and leave you without covering

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by MrMasterMind

Luke at least learn one thing. There are not degrees of covenant, you are either in covenant or you are not, and a breech of covenant does NOT automatically void it and leave you without covering

MrMasterMind... don't you know you have to WORK WORK WORK every day to keep the covenant in effect. If you miss one little thing you are suddenly "out of covenant!" NOT!!! This is not a "self righteous covenant" but a Godly Grace (for by Grace....it is not of yourself, it is a gift of God) Covenant!

Been Thinkin

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

nice context... You are under the law of christ which is the royal law. To love is to have mercy and fulfill his law.

Yes, we are, which is the perfect law of liberty, the other law mentioned in this context is the "law of sin and death", which Jesus fulfilled completely, paying in full for the sins of the whole world. And having done so, the whole world is now free from the law of sin and death, God no longer imputing our sins against us, nailing them to His cross.

The royal law of love, calls us all to enter into righteous relationship with God and humans.

[Charnock]

Luke's theology perfectly represents what I have been force-fed all of my life.

This idea that God is constantly looking for a reason to throw us into Hell is a huge part of the UC culture of fear.

Jesus is the Good Shepherd who gives His life for the sheep. He stands in the gap to protect us.

A shepherd is a gatherer. He's always looking for those who've strayed, and has, in fact, come to seek and save that which is lost. No shepherd worth his salt wants to destroy a sheep.

If you, being the sheep of His pasture, are lost, it's because you absolutely choose to be, and not because He drives you away.

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Luke's theology perfectly represents what I have been force-fed all of my life.

This idea that God is constantly looking for a reason to throw us into Hell is a huge part of the UC culture of fear.

He is not LOOKING for a reason. He judges justly what happens! his mercy is his love compelling us back and he gives us his Spirit to overcome the power of the flesh.

Jesus is the Good Shepherd who gives His life for the sheep. He stands in the gap to protect us.

yes by LEADING US WHEN WE FOLLOW!

A shepherd is a gatherer. He's always looking for those who've strayed, and has, in fact, come to seek and save that which is lost. No shepherd worth his salt wants to destroy a sheep.

Yes, like Ephesus but a point in time when he leaves and he stops compelling!

If you, being the sheep of His pasture, are lost, it's because you absolutely choose to be, and not because He drives you away.

Never said he drove you away. His law is just and so is his justice!

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Yes, we are, which is the perfect law of liberty, the other law mentioned in this context is the "law of sin and death", which Jesus fulfilled completely, paying in full for the sins of the whole world. And having done so, the whole world is now free from the law of sin and death, God no longer imputing our sins against us, nailing them to His cross.

The royal law of love, calls us all to enter into righteous relationship with God and humans.

Scripture?

Everything else here has me in your "amen" corner.

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

MrMasterMind... don't you know you have to WORK WORK WORK every day to keep the covenant in effect. If you miss one little thing you are suddenly "out of covenant!" NOT!!! This is not a "self righteous covenant" but a Godly Grace (for by Grace....it is not of yourself, it is a gift of God) Covenant!

Been Thinkin

so self righteosness is following after the Spirit? hmmm interesting!