Drive-by, on-my-way-out-the-door post... but what you described here does not describe me or anyone I have fellowship with... and we ALL believe in Hell. We have differing opinions about it, and though most of us don't feel it's a flaming torture pit, we believe those descriptions are adequate to describe the intensity of being isolated from God.
Good point. Being isolated from God does weigh in my heart as being a terrible plight, but I also view God as my Father. A Father that loves His children is grieved over the wandering and stumbling of His flesh and blood, but His arms remain open to His battered, bruised, and afraid family. I just don't see God forsaking those He loves because they fail, and that includes the failure of not understanding.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but most Oneness/Apostolic Churches teach the "Burn Forever" doctrine. My experience in the Oneness Movement has been the "Hell Fire" message of, either you obey or you BURN (Literally) forever.
I do think, though, that the concept of Hell has bothered those who used to strictly adhere to the teaching "Eternal Torture", as experience in life proves the great flaw in all of us.
The above view of God, is a god that is confused and impotent toward his creation, powerless to complete what he began. Why? because he failed to take in to account the power of Satan and the ALL POWERFUL WILL of those that he created.
This is not the God of the Bible, it is a god created in the image of his creation, by men who make excuses for the failure of the this wimpy creator.
BUT JESUS CHRIST THE TRUE GOD OF THE BIBLE, THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD, TO THE RESCUE!!!!
"...FEAR NOT FOR I HAVE OVERCOME THE WORLD...!
Do you call yourself Crakjak because of wht you're smokin'?
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13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. 14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. Galatians 5:13-15 (NIV)
Do you call yourself Crakjak because of wht you're smokin'?
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
Other scriptures seem to contradict the idea of Universalism though:
Mt 25:46 "And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
This verse is the final line in Jesus' parable of the sheep and goats, and many folks believe it is the final word on the fate of unbelievers. Though there is no reference at all concerning the saved or the lost in these scriptures.
What is the true meaning of this parable: What I find is that when we feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, Jesus says, it is as if we are ministering directly to Jesus himself. And when we refuse to minister to the broken and hurting around us, it is as if we are refusing to minister to Jesus himself.
Many are utterly shocked to discover the true nature of their own actions. This verse is a very powerful point about the inclusive character of love and how the interests of Jesus are so closely connected with his love for humanity that any good that befalls them is good that befalls Him, and any evil that befalls "the least of His" is evil that befalls Him.
Most folks consider this context as the final separation of the good and the wicked, and that eternal life is the reward for our good works--even though Paul explicitly denies that that is the case.
"The purpose of the story is to inform us that our actions, for good or ill, are more far reaching than we might have imagined, and that we will be judged accordingly; it is NOT to warn us concerning the ultimate fate of the wicked." T. Talbott
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
Crakjak believes just that. Every human who has every lived as well as Satan and his minions will end up redeemed and in heaven
I am agnostic toward "Satan and his minions", however I have declared that God is more than able to bring these to repentance, He has the power, He has the time. He is not in a power struggle with anyone, He is the Almighty.
One thing is for certain, all creation and everything in it is to be redeemed, no person or thing will continue in defiance of God, everyone and everything will bow and confess, not just in submission, but also "to the GLORY of God the Father." No hellhole or lake of fire will preserve any evil forever.
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
It really is fantastic! We have had far bigger crowds and a lot of people have become part of us already.
By the way we had a bunch of your ceramic angels on our christmas tree again this year. Love those things!
That's cool. We had a great Christmas Open House Sale again, raised over 22K on a Friday evening, and six hours of Saturday. Coventry is growing, plan on breaking ground on next building phase midyear.
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
Just havin' fun... rhyming... being playful with my friend CrakJak.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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